OPN - Trek Long Island 2024 Panels!

[00:00:00] Is this thing on? Hello, hello. Welcome to Open Pike Night. I'm your host, John T. Foltz, here tonight with a special episode from our time at Trek Long Island. Cam and I were able

[00:00:35] to go this year and we were a part of five panels combined. And tonight we're bringing you audio from a couple of those panels. First up is going to be our Let's Fly Discovery

[00:00:47] Retrospective panel where we sat down with some of the cast of this final season of Discovery and discussed the end of the first show in the new Trek era. After that, you'll hear part of our panel on Strange New Worlds Season 3 theories and queries. And worry not,

[00:01:05] callers, when the time comes we will absolutely combine some of your theories and queries as well. But be sure to give it a listen. I think there's some great ideas in there

[00:01:13] and we had a great time. So first up, please enjoy Let's Fly, a Star Trek Discovery Retrospective hosted by Open Pike Night at Trek Long Island 2024. Sounds like we're good. All right,

[00:01:29] we got a room full of working mics. We got a room full of great fans of Star Trek Discovery out there. All right, well, hi, I'm John T. Foltz. I'm one of the hosts of Open Pike Night podcast. I am Cameron Harrison. I'm also a host

[00:01:45] of Open Pike Night podcast. And if you haven't heard of Open Pike Night podcast yet, we're like the only Star Trek podcast out there. How could you not have heard of us? I mean, what's going on folks? But we're here today to host the Let's Fly,

[00:01:57] a Star Trek Discovery Spotlight podcast. We're having a discussion tonight and we want to welcome you all to our panel and thank you for coming. It's a little chilly in here so we're gonna heat it up but I just gotta say thank you to Trek Long

[00:02:11] Island, to all of the organizers, to Melissa the stage manager, to Flash working tech tonight. Thank you everybody, to all of the volunteers out there, to our friend Mark, to everybody who's at every desk helping folks. Like let's give

[00:02:25] them all a huge round of applause. So if you have not heard Open Pike Night, we are a call-in podcast. We have our listeners. We put the word out when we get a guest. We do a lot of interviews or when we're talking

[00:02:43] about a strange new worlds episode, you know because those come out all the time. But we put out the word about three, four days ahead of time, say send us your thoughts. Send us a 90 second clip. It's very easy. You turn

[00:02:55] on your note, your voice recorder in your phone, record a file, email it to us and we play it and we help sort of help guide our conversation. And also if we're having one of the cast members or crew members call in,

[00:03:08] send your thoughts, send praise. You wouldn't believe the looks of joy on their faces when they hear. We just say, oh here's somebody else from around the world telling you how awesome you are. They love it. It's a great

[00:03:20] time and it's great participation in our podcast and we couldn't be more appreciative. We're also Open Pike Night, an Open Pike Night themed podcast. So we do ask every one of our guests to tell us a joke at the

[00:03:34] end of the recording. We warn them ahead of time. We don't spring it on them. Sometimes we spring it on them because if we went through a representative, they may not hear the word that they're supposed to bring a

[00:03:45] joke but they always bring something pretty good. So I figured, you know, we're here tonight. We're not going to spring it on. So I'll tell the joke tonight. So a Vulcan, a human, a breed and an Orion walk into a

[00:04:01] bar. The bartender looks at them and says, that joke killed on Betazoid. Cam, you got this. I guess we got to keep going through. I don't have any more jokes. That was my whole joke. You also have a chance to ask your

[00:04:28] questions. We'll have the mic down. Stage left, your right down here. We'll give you a heads up when we're going to open up to the audience about halfway through. Yeah, so in true open pike night, like, excuse me,

[00:04:42] in true open pike night spirit, please make sure you bring your best questions, your best comments, show appreciation for our guests tonight. If you have not seen season five of Discovery 1, what have you been doing? I mean, it literally just ended the day before this convention.

[00:05:00] And we have a bunch of the cast here tonight. So let's introduce them. Let's bring our guests on. Ready? Let's bring them on. All right. See Orville Cummings, Lieutenant William Christopher. All right. Tara Rossley, Tarina herself. Janet Kidder, Osira. I'm pretty

[00:05:20] intimidated right now. And Elias Tufexis is Locke. Thanks so much for coming, guys. I want to make sure I can see you all. And I know. All right. Well, let's start before we dive headlong into Star Trek, which is why we're all here. We like to go back

[00:05:42] a little bit. I want to ask each of you how you got into acting. What gave you the bug? Just your quick bio. We'll start down there with Elias. Oh, I always there was nothing else I really

[00:05:56] had any intention of doing since I was a little kid. I think it was and this is not because I'm here, but I just wanted to be Captain Kirk. That's all I wanted to do. And I didn't know

[00:06:06] what that meant. So I just until I studied acting, I just thought you know, I'm going to end up on TV somehow. And William Shatner and I literally grew up in the same on the same street. So he was always kind of a hero of mine because of

[00:06:20] that. And yeah, and then I just you know, it was always gonna be an actor is never anything else. And I eventually learned what it actually meant. And went to school and did all that and then just hit the ground running and the grind

[00:06:34] until you just get the job that help you pay the bills. That's what ended up happening with me pretty simple. I had the pleasure, I guess, of being on the set of Superman with my aunt when I was young. And so that inspired me and

[00:06:52] I never ever wanted to do anything else either. It's like once you get the bug, sadly, gets right under your skin, and there's no way of no way of making it go away. So yeah, that's what happened for me.

[00:07:06] I'm just gonna preface preface by saying my name is Tara. Tara. It's okay. Everybody's doing it today. On a whim when I was 13, I decided I really wanted to take an acting class. And my mom and my grandmother pooled their resources. And I

[00:07:21] went to some obscure modeling agency in Vancouver where they had a class in acting. I had an amazing teacher, she gave me a monologue, coached me a little bit. It was the most exhilarating thing I'd ever experienced. And I decided I wanted to be an actor.

[00:07:42] My check two one two. Y'all hear me? Alright, cool. So I grew up in a small island called Jamaica and I grew up as an only child. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Big up Jamaica. And I've always had this like big imagination and

[00:07:58] subconsciously, I knew I always wanted to be a performer. But it was never presented to me as something that I could do as a career until I came to Canada and a friend of mine, I asked

[00:08:07] him, what do you want to be when you grow up? He's like an actor. I'm like, you can you could do that. You could just decide and he's just like, Yeah, what do you want to be an actor? And ever since I did that, I've been

[00:08:20] taking drama, went to school, take two classes and I've never looked back. And I couldn't decide what I want to do as a career outside of acting. And I'm like, there's so much to choose from. Why don't you just choose all of

[00:08:31] them? Because as an actor, you have no limit to what you can become in this life and I love humans and I love psychology. I'm like it has every one of my interests in one career. So there's no way I would do anything else

[00:08:42] aside from this. Can I ask real quick? What is your triples name? Oh, my triple Oh, man. Turn one. Okay, what you guys? Ask him what his problem with Klingons is. For now, this trouble is called Milo. It's always he

[00:09:11] that's his name. He loves that. There's a popular drink in Jamaica that I grew up drinking and it was the same color as him. So that's that's his name. That is fantastic. And that's that's what we know how you

[00:09:21] all got started. And now that discovery is done, and you have all played your parts on this incredible series. If you could pick up the phone and call yourselves the day you got offered to roll and to be part of Star Trek and

[00:09:33] part of Star Trek discovery, what would you tell ask say what would you what would you say to yourself if you could talk to them on that day? Yes, looking at me. I think I would say a little

[00:09:46] I think I would take it a little further and I would tell my 15 year old self that I was in a shop. And I was going to be on I was going to be on Star Trek. That would you know, there's there's footage out

[00:10:00] there that I've posted of me on a little bridge that I made in my friend's basement in the captain's chair doing a TV show that we made of Star Trek when I was 14 or 15. So I imagine going back and telling that kid like

[00:10:15] going home that day. Like dude, I know you're just pretending but you're gonna sit on the actual bridge pretty soon of the enterprise not pretty soon. 20 years or so. Just be patient and that would be yeah, that would blow my mind back then. It was

[00:10:29] blowing my mind just showing up every day to work. Nevermind just tell it my 15 year old self. Yeah, it's it's great. Yeah, I guess I would. That was not Osiris voice. I guess I would say to never give up and you never

[00:10:48] know what's around the corner. So follow your dreams and keep going. If you follow your heart and do this crazy thing in life, then I don't think you can be let down. Had I known I was gonna sit in the captain's chair, much to everyone's distaste.

[00:11:06] I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna get to do that. Have fun. Yeah, that's it. This is to the to the tar that booked the gig. Okay. Um, I guess I would say just wait because it's going to become one of the most extraordinary adventures in TV land

[00:11:27] that you've ever had because when I initially booked the role of Trina, first of all, I didn't know she was Vulcan or a president. But I, I did know that it was for one episode and what it blossomed blossomed into. I never

[00:11:41] could have imagined. And it's the I'm sure you've all heard the entire cast and crew are extraordinary human beings led by Sonequa who has a heart of gold and is exceedingly generous. And it just truly was a joy to come to work.

[00:11:57] Yeah, I've never been on such a happy set in my life. Cross the board every single person on there every day was so thrilled to come to work. So it's an amazing experience. If I would call myself and say, I would say

[00:12:15] you're going to space boy. You're going to space boy. Oh man, because growing up, I loved sci fi and I've never gotten much opportunity to audition for sci fi shows. So this was my first audition for a sci fi show.

[00:12:30] And they were very vague about it that it was Star Trek. But I do my research and I figured it out. And I kind of wish I didn't because then I got really nervous. I'm like, this is Star Trek. But if I could

[00:12:40] call myself again, I would say you're going to space boy. But also everything you've worked for everything you believe in yourself to be true, it's going to come into fruition and it's going to become tangible for you. And it's because you

[00:12:49] never gave up. And this is a moment that you want to keep going. So Orville, this is your reward for keep believing in yourself for all the work you've done. And if you keep doing it, there's more to come. All right. Well, I want to talk smooching

[00:13:07] a little bit. So Tara and Elias, you both had kissing scenes on each side of not with each other. Did we have something that was offset? Could you tell under all those prosthetics? And that's the point. So you've lots of prosthetics. Does that

[00:13:24] make a kissing scene more or less awkward? I'll say this that nine times out of 10, my lips ended up stuck to Eve. So yeah, it was not easy, especially like the hotter it was, the more my face would come off after

[00:13:39] every kiss. So no, it was hard. It was much more difficult for her, I'm sure. So you just got to kiss this weird thing. Yeah, it's not a difficult hardship to kiss Eve. But it was very sticky and gross. I'm glad it came across and they didn't do

[00:13:58] a really good close up of the kiss because it would have looked weird. We're like, but it would have made sense because like the brain are kind of jelly. So we couldn't hold it together and it was sticky because he was so turned on or something.

[00:14:10] There's some fan there's some fan fic out there you guys can write. Do not Google. No, no, do it. Don't listen to him. Do it. Tara any thoughts on the other side of the prosthetics kissing Saru? I have to say when I read the

[00:14:24] script, I was a bit reluctant about the idea of not kissing Doug Jones, but of kissing a rubber prosthetic in terms of how it would sell, how it would come across. And I did talk to Doug about it and he reassured me, he's like, you've seen Shape of

[00:14:43] Water, right? And I said yes. And he said, well, I kissed Sally Hawkins in that and did it sell? And I was like, yes. And I just had to trust on the day that when they shot the scene and they said they were happy that it looked

[00:14:57] realistic. And I haven't seen the finale yet, so I don't actually know what it looks like. Totally worked. It's also weird because Saru doesn't have any lips. Like he has no lips and must have been very, very tricky. Yeah. Yeah. We love the chin boop. The chin

[00:15:18] boop. Was that written or was that improvised? I think the chin was something that maybe we did early on and Doug had a recollection of that. And so he said, why don't we bring that back as a signature gesture between the two of them? Excellent. So...

[00:15:38] Just putting her finger on his little chin boop. It's very sexy, Janet. Well, you have plenty of time to practice those because now that discovery is over and as you look out on this crowd, I mean, you are now part of not just a pop culture

[00:16:03] but a culture. And how does it feel knowing you're always going to be welcomed like this? There's no fan base that is as welcoming as a Star Trek fan base. It's crazy. It's... Just from online I noticed it before I even started doing these

[00:16:20] Comic Cons. And also, speaking for myself, if I wasn't here I'd be sitting right there. I'm that much of a geek so... Not that geek is a bad thing anymore, it's a good thing. I'm proud to be a Star Trek geek. And I didn't realize how welcoming...

[00:16:38] Not only is the fan super welcoming but everybody on every Star Trek show and I'm not kidding, every person I've met from all of the shows is super welcoming. And just welcome to the family, welcome to this crazy thing that you're about to embark on. It's great.

[00:16:55] It's my favorite thing about this whole event. I feel really privileged to be part of this world. I'll be honest with you, I didn't know that much about it before I got on the show. I watched the oldest, oldest, oldest Star Treks. And so I

[00:17:15] was really quite surprised at the actual universe that has been created by the shows and by the people that love them. And I just really appreciate being here and appreciate how much you guys get out of this world and these characters. It's an honor. So yeah, thank you.

[00:17:36] I very much reiterate what Elias and Janet have said that first and foremost I had no idea of the culture and the epic nature of the fan base because I didn't have very much of a history with the show. I was completely blown away

[00:17:55] by the response and it has been such a joy. This is just my third, but why I keep doing conventions is because it's such a joy to meet you all. You're all bring so much generosity and warmth and enthusiasm that it's very thrilling to feel the response.

[00:18:18] Yeah, I always knew the Star Trek fan base was massive. I wish I prepared myself more because there is a time, this is the only story, there's a time I was outside my apartment and I just took a shower and just in a bathrobe. I'm just

[00:18:33] crazy like that. So I came out because my friend was taking an Uber and I was helping him look for the Uber. I'm like it's over there and I'm yelling and people are looking at me just half naked in my bathroom and one guy walked

[00:18:43] across and he stops and is like, hey, I know you. You're on TV. Yeah, you're... I'm like, yeah, it's me. Yeah, yeah, Star Trek. Don't tell anybody that I'm out here like this man. He's like, I see you. I'm like, yeah, we made

[00:18:57] that clear that you saw me. Just keep it moving, man. All right. Thanks for the love though. And then I went back inside. Keep watching. Well, speaking of fans, a lot of the actors we've talked to have talked about how once they were cast in Star Trek,

[00:19:12] they found out just how many Star Trek fans they had in their life. Did you have any surprising friends or family come out of the woodwork as Trekkies when they found out you were in the show? Yes. My best friend's mom, I

[00:19:26] did not know she was one of the biggest Star Trek fans. And when she found out that I booked the role, she came all the way... I believe in Toronto. She came all the way from Brampton, which is like an hour out. And she came

[00:19:38] just to give me a hug and to hype me up. And I'm just like, oh my God, I didn't know you're such a big fan. So anytime I get like a prop, a souvenir, I bring it back and I offer it to her because she's been like a

[00:19:47] second mom to me. So the fact that she's so proud of me, it just, I don't know, it made me realize how special this thing really is to people. So that hit home for me. Yeah, absolutely. I live in a very small community in southern Ontario and there's

[00:20:05] been a number of people very enthusiastically responded to some of the posts I've made. And I even had a guy at the dog park ask me if he could have my Vulcan ears. And I delivered. And then he gave them to his dog.

[00:20:34] I've had a lot of my students come to come to my classes with, you know, photographs and memorabilia that they would like to be signed. My family, not so much my kids. I'm almost cool now to my kids. Like I'm verging on maybe being

[00:20:50] cool, but no hidden, no hidden family Star Trek is in my life now. For me, we're all Star Trek nerds. So I was, I was sending the first thing you see when you walk on the Star Trek set is no pictures. And I don't think there is an

[00:21:08] order in my life that I have disobeyed more. No pictures. I think I took 10,000 pictures. And so I went the opposite direction. And I just was there. They're gonna kill me. But I was emailing my family. Look, it's the enterprise. Look, it's a Jefferies too. Just like

[00:21:27] totally free, you know, because they're all, you know, giant Star Trek fans, because that's how it came to me. It was all through my dad and his brothers, my uncles, and they would watch it religiously. So yeah, no, no surprise. Star Trek fans, just obvious ones.

[00:21:41] Was there a big one notable reaction maybe when you delivered the news? I think everybody was like, cool. Like I was like I was I would walk on these sets and I'd be like, yeah, just the enterprise. Cool. And then deep down, I'm like, are you

[00:21:59] So yeah, I don't know. I still don't know how to react to it. Like I'll watch the show. I'll meet everybody you guys. This is so weird. Because like I said, I would honestly be right there. I come I used to come to these cons. I used to

[00:22:11] come to these cons and pay to come in. Now I'm getting paid. So it's I'm not complaining. It's very cool. Jenny, you mentioned teaching you mentioned your students. We all know stereotypical gift for teachers from students is an apple. Have you gotten more or less apples since

[00:22:27] you were in for this scene with Admiral Vance? I don't know how to answer that question. Well, maybe this is springing something on you all. But this is called the Let's Fly panel, which is of course Michael Burnham's go phrase or captain phrase. If you all got to

[00:22:54] Captain Starship, what would your go phrase be? I know you've thought about this Elias. Oh, actually, I have Um, man, that's a good question. I think so on that video I was telling you about that I made when I was a kid, the Star Trek one,

[00:23:12] it was kind of a comedy Star Trek thing that we did. And my I was the captain and my thing was Thunderbirds are go. That was my very esoteric nowadays, nobody's gonna know what that means. But that's what it was. But I don't know if I would

[00:23:28] use that now I'd be like where's my that's all I care about. I think I would just say go, go, go, go faster. Let's go upside down. Let's like play around in this machine. Let's go upside down upside down. Right? Go, go, go. Um, I would say what

[00:23:55] Olatande would always say to me when he was directing me. He would say, vulcanize it. That's a really good question because me and David Thomason, who plays Linus on Discovery him and I when the cameras are rolling, we're constructing our own side stories. It's like when we're

[00:24:23] done on USS Discovery, we're going to run our own ship. We'll both be captains 50 50. We're going to call it black dragon. I'll be the black. You'll be the dragon and we'll have these cool bikes and we'll call them lizards. It's going to be so sick and we're going

[00:24:40] to pitch it to the show runners and everything. We're going to get that spin off. It's going to be a comedy. It's going to be about a heist. But if I would have a catchphrase, the catchphrase I say to all my friends before we go work out before

[00:24:50] we leave the house before we do anything or go on a mission. I'm just like, let's get it. Did everyone hype? Hashtag make black dragon happen. Make black dragon happen. I know should we open up to the audience and we'd love to hear from you. Do

[00:25:12] you have any folks have any questions for our wonderful guests today? Just line up off to the left here. We've got a mic for everybody. All right. Ready? I meant to give you a heads up. Sorry. Hi, how y'all doing? Hey, blessed. There's a switch on it

[00:25:40] too. No pressure, guys. We're all surrounded sorry. I work at fast food times every day. I just want to say I love y'all. Thank you so much for discovery. I am definitely one of those people who did not see the series finale yet because I was at work

[00:25:55] and then I had to come here today so I didn't have time to watch it. But I do want to say when it comes to season three of discovery, I will defend season three of discovery in Osiris to the day I die. Osiris is such a G.

[00:26:07] I don't every time I defend her, I get so much hate. I do not care. That's my girl with the exception of when you killed your nephew because I thought he was pretty attractive, but I was kind of mad about that. But I'm going to let it slide.

[00:26:15] I'm going to let it slide. I'm going to let it slide. So I just want to ask you what was your favorite aspect of playing Osiris? And I also want to say I also loved you in the office. What was it? Operation Christmas Drop on Netflix.

[00:26:26] That was a lovely lovely. That's a whole other switch. For me, being Osiris was the first time I'd ever acted in full prosthetics and I found a real beautiful freedom in being behind that mask. I think my favorite moment was defiling the chair. Like that, I had no

[00:26:55] idea the amount of intense sort of respect and admiration people had for the captain's chair. The actors that work on that set don't even touch it. I did. I was like, well, Osiris is going to get in it and stick her leg up on it and start moving

[00:27:13] around. And you could you could hear the set just kind of go. So I think for me that's the that was the most fun. That was the most standout moment because I really had no idea the negative effect it would have on many, many people.

[00:27:31] I've had people at cons going, I don't want your autograph because you're a bitch. Osiris was a bitch. Job well done then, I guess. So that would be it. So my question is for Elias. I see you wearing a KO shirt. You talk wrestling now?

[00:27:54] If Locke had a finishing move, what would it be? And do you have a wrestling persona that you want to play? This is the truth. For about four months, I trained to be a pro wrestler. I did. I had a ring and my character was Twisted Steel.

[00:28:11] That was his name. And my tag team partner was Sex Appeal. So we were Twisted Steel and Sex Appeal. And the joke being I am not Twisted Steel and he had no Sex Appeal. Because we were bad guys. Of course we were bad guys, I only play bad

[00:28:27] guys. What would Locke's finishing move be? Man, that's a good question. It would be something... Wait, he can turn himself into jelly. So it would be some sort of like it was some sort of hold. Like a figure four leg lock, but like

[00:28:39] it twist, he twists it back like a Boston crab mixed with a leg lock, something like that. And we can talk wrestling a lot. Yeah, that's cool. One thing I will say it was very hard to fight in the lock get up. Like in the brain

[00:28:53] costume, it was like a nightmare. You had to wear the brain costume. Did you wear the brain costume? No, you didn't. It was a nightmare to wear that thing because it's like, you look at punch and you're like, ah, and you can't really turn it.

[00:29:04] And then the makeup was really heavy and the head was really heavy. So it's hard to fight. So I don't know. Maybe his move would just be a sleeper or just like, look, I can't do anything else. I just want to say to anybody who didn't understand it,

[00:29:19] that's what it's like for everybody else when we talk about star that is what it's like. You see Cody Rhodes won at 41. Hi, this is also for Janet. First, I love your shoes, but that's not my question. But they're really cool. My question is,

[00:29:42] I see that you had a role in a film about J.K. Rowling. And I was wondering if you could just comment a little bit on what you did in that film. Yeah, I played J.K. Rowling's mom and she died of MS

[00:29:57] when she was in her 40s. And J.K. Rowling was kind of at the height of her new celebrity when we made that film. It was just a really nice thing to be a part of because she had created the Harry Potter legends out of, you know, nothing.

[00:30:16] She was a single mom. She was a desperate sort of single mom. I came from a single parent family. I am a single mom. So it's just really nice to be able to support a human in that way and to have her story told like that.

[00:30:32] And it was just a it was a really cool thing to be a part of. My kids were really young at that point. And I made the mistake of watching it with them. And they didn't like the fact that I had, like, other children. They found that

[00:30:46] they found that really, really tricky. And when I died, it took a long time for them to get over that. It was a really it was a really sad thing to watch them go, hello. And it's like, I'm not, I'm here. But it was a lovely thing

[00:31:01] to be a part of, to tell that story and and really, you know, celebrate J.K. Rowling and all the hard work that she put into creating her, you know, fabulous success story. Yeah. How did your kids feel about Osiris? Like I said, she's kind of cool,

[00:31:19] you know, their friends thought she was cool. So they're like, OK, I will give you like a little, you know, a little bit of coolness. Yeah. I just want to say Osiris is great because she was playing the personification of the ultimate enemy of Star Trek, capitalism.

[00:31:39] And just to play off of that, I was wondering if you could tell there's a myth on the Internet that for 10, 12 episode seasons, they actually spread the reduction out the entire year to make it easier on you. But I was wondering, is the production schedule

[00:31:53] like the same per episode where you're only working like so I heard you're only working half a year. The Toronto stage crew like discussion boards are saying that a lot of things is like dead up there now. And I was just wondering how

[00:32:05] things are going like up in Canada and for the careers as far as working in the new short season streaming world. So just generally, it's a very weird time right now. The strike messed up a lot of stuff and everything is shorter. Like you said, everyone's got

[00:32:22] I work a lot of games and everybody's getting fired in games. And it's a it's a really it's a very odd time. And yeah, I mean, I wish we worked back in the days where we had 23 episodes to shoot, right? Instead of 10 or 12.

[00:32:38] But I mean, I don't know enough about it to know why. It's obviously financial and streaming and all this stuff. Go ahead. But it seems like I find it such a conundrum because people are making a lot of money on, you know, there's so many streaming services

[00:32:53] people are watching. It's like so I'm not quite sure. But, you know, we're making feature films, well, small films in like 15 days now as opposed to, you know, three months or six months. Everything is being whittled down to the bare minimum. It is a really strange time

[00:33:09] to be an actor. I can't speak to what it's like in the States, but certainly since the strike in Canada, it's it's like a wasteland right now. It's like that in the US too. There are shows all over the place, but so it's like taking revenge

[00:33:31] against against the strikers, against the unions and yeah, it's like it's who knows. And I think I know it feels like it might have changed forever in a way. I'm not quite sure what the future holds now, but I think that I think we'll be doing

[00:33:45] Star Trek conventions for the rest of our lives. See you here next year. We'll keep you employed. I have something for each one of you. First of all, thank you so much for being the antithesis of your character, your energy. I'm sorry we could. Thank you.

[00:34:07] We are all jealous of you. You've gotten more Doug hugs than any of us. Oh, Sira, thank you. Just thank you for giving us a character that we could jump up and off the couch and scream and eat. And don't worry when people die in Star Trek,

[00:34:28] they're not really dead. He's still on the transport bus. He's still there. Thank you. Thank you. Hi. Can you all tell us what was your favorite episode that you were in or a favorite scene that you did? My favorite scene was when I'm negotiating,

[00:34:51] when I'm sitting around the table eating the fruit, which turns out to be shit and getting up and like actually having one on one was a was a fantastic few days on set that we just focused on that, like one scene. So that was great for me.

[00:35:09] Yeah, episode 12, I think that was. I don't know that I can definitively say what was my favorite scene. I certainly enjoyed aspects of like season five when Trina was asked to negotiate with the brain. That was that was so exciting to explore.

[00:35:27] And I don't think we'd really seen her. We'd seen her certainly in a diplomatic capacity, but not sort of helming. And I just also really loved all the the delicate, tender, soft, blooming romance scenes with Doug. They were just so like I really loved

[00:35:44] like the meditation scene early on. I think that was season four. So, yeah. I would say for me, it was in season four when we visited the 10C planet. That was such a sick day for me on set one

[00:36:00] because I've always dreamed of working on an AAR wall and we worked on one and it was in Brampton where I kind of like grew up when I moved to Canada and I'm just like I'm in my hometown filming Star Trek on an AAR wall.

[00:36:13] This is too surreal. What made it even more of my favorite scene was that how they set decked it and once they put on all the monitors, it actually felt like we're on a floating rock. Like it created an illusion that so much

[00:36:27] that people had to take like vertigo pills because they were getting nauseous. And I'm like this is so sick. And everyone's like how are you okay? Because I'm like this is what my dream looks like. Every time I close my eyes and go to bed,

[00:36:39] I'm on a red planet spinning and there's a monster right there. So it was like a beautiful moment for me. That was like my favorite day on set. I was having a field day. Yeah, my thing was on the AAR wall too,

[00:36:50] my favorite stuff but because all the flashback stuff with the brain, I can explain it like this really quickly is that I play a lot of bad guys on TV and nine times out of ten, somebody else explains why I'm evil

[00:37:03] or I have one line like my dad was mean to me or something that's very, like very, very simplistic and when I first was given the role, I you know it was just villain. I didn't know anything about it.

[00:37:15] And then they told me no we're gonna explain why and I thought it would be some character explaining it or you know they're going through blocks file or something like that but to actually be able to go back and shoot exactly what happened to get him at mall

[00:37:30] and to where they are, that was great. So all of that brain stuff, all that stuff in the past with his uncle and really trying to get the emotion for that mask was difficult and the one note I got on set more than any note was bigger, bigger.

[00:37:48] Did I consider myself kind of like a naturalistic actor like a subtle actor and they were just bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger and I remember having a conversation with Tunde saying like okay I'll go bigger but you have to promise me you're not letting me get melodramatic

[00:38:02] because I feel like I'm getting melodramatic. I feel like I'm playing like a soap opera and he's like I promise I will not use any soap opera takes, I'll use a good take and he did to their credit, not only Tunde

[00:38:13] but the director of that episode, Jen McGowan, she was great too. They all promised me that they would take care of me and they did and sometimes you just gotta trust other people because I felt like I was overacting the whole time

[00:38:22] but I was getting through that makeup. It was very tricky but so maybe shooting it wasn't as great because I was nervous but watching it, it was very and the validation there was like oh okay, this is my favorite stuff

[00:38:34] that we did in that season because of that stuff. Thank you all. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just have two observations. Miss Rosling, I think you do a wonderful job of walking a very difficult line between the emotional and the Vulcan

[00:38:52] and if you went too emotional, people wouldn't believe it and if you went too Vulcan then we just figure well what does she see in Saru? So I just wanna congratulate you on a fantastic job. Thank you very much. And Miss Kidder, I just think

[00:39:07] your character has entered the echelon, a very rarefied field of evil women in Star Trek. You're up there with of course the Borg Queen, maybe the Dora sisters and certainly Kai Win and unfortunately most of them all got killed off

[00:39:22] and I'm very sorry that your character got killed off but evil women in Star Trek, Osira is right up there. Thank you so much. Hello everyone. As much as I wish I had a question for the green people, this is for Tara and Orville

[00:39:43] because you were in the final episode with the 10C and I know this is kind of a dicey question but I'm gonna ask it anyway. I don't know how much either one of you follow US politics but how did you feel about,

[00:40:04] were you aware of who Stacey Abrams was when they cast her as the president of Earth? No. I didn't know. I didn't ask the short answer. Do you know who she is now? No. Okay. She ran for governor of the state of Georgia twice and lost. Where?

[00:40:26] And so well, yeah. Depend, yeah. And she is extremely instrumental in getting people to register to vote in this country, particularly people of color and she actually can be credited with like giving us the opportunity to vote like giving us to democratic US senators

[00:40:57] from the very conservative southern state of Georgia. President Abrams! President Abrams, president of Earth. So Google her. If you're bored in your hotel room tonight, Google her. She was pretty cool and she was a Star Trek fan so her only request was not to know anything

[00:41:17] about the storyline. Anyway, that's that. Thank you. Yeah, there was a great deal of enthusiasm from Sonequa, from Tula about having her on the set. Sonequa? Oh, Sonequa, yeah. Yeah, she was, she's amazing. If the Federation split into like four sections, red uniforms, blue uniforms, yellow uniforms

[00:41:49] and miscellaneous uniforms and had like a war, who do you think would win and why? Not the red. Miscellaneous, what? The red shirt would not win, none of the red shirts would. Even though I know hardwares. Like anyone wearing green? She's like green, green? Yep.

[00:42:11] I would wanna wear green. I would say anyone in section 31 is winning that war because it's all the black uniform all the way. Yeah, that's true. So what, oh, I just wanted to ask, Elias, how long did the makeup take for you?

[00:42:27] About four and a half hours every day, except if I had to do my hands, it was an extra like almost two hours. But it's funny, you know, because when I got the role, that's the first question I asked how long. And then I kind of realized

[00:42:39] that that's the first question everyone asks. But I kind of realized that that's not the difficult part because I'm not working. I show up at 2.30 in the morning and I basically fall asleep and they do all this stuff on me. They're the ones working.

[00:42:52] They're the ones who have to be there at 2.30 and paint me and do this wonderful art. The harder stuff is wearing it all day, wearing it for a further 12 hours and fighting in it like I said, and trying to make out. It's not easy. Stuff like that.

[00:43:08] All that stuff is much more difficult than, the only thing that's difficult about that is just getting up at 2.30 in the morning to work. But I was saying, I did two full days with David Cronenberg on the set and I asked him all these questions.

[00:43:21] We had these great conversations and only recently did I realize I could see him on the street and he would have no idea who I was. Because he never saw me. I got there super early and I left super late.

[00:43:31] So yeah, he has no idea what I look like. He probably loved having conversations with a green blob. Janet, how long did makeup take for you? Yeah, four hours, four to four and a half hours every day and then an hour getting it off

[00:43:45] at the end of the day as well because they have to do it slowly otherwise it leaves your skin really red and sore. Oh god, I tore my shirt off all the time right away. I tried really hard to not do that

[00:43:55] because all you wanna do is rip it off your face. Yeah, but again I just wanna say kudos to the artists, to the makeup artists because you would get there of course way before anyone else was there because you had this process you had to undergo.

[00:44:09] And I got to sit in a chair and have some coffee or meditate or sleep and they had to be on point from the moment they started to the moment they finished. So the hard work was definitely theirs. That's kind of a forgotten point.

[00:44:23] It's always like how do you feel dealing with, and I ask the same question. So it's not like a weird question. It is a legitimate question, but I'm like no those guys were working. They were the ones that were working. And then yeah you know,

[00:44:33] I'm not saying like it's a total breeze because it's not, you have to sit in certain positions and all that stuff but the majority of the time it's not difficult to have makeup put on you. It's just yeah. Unless you're slightly claustrophobic then it gets, or the plaster.

[00:44:49] You wanna vomit or something then it's not good. Remember the plaster thing? Yeah when you have to get plastered on your face, that's like an hour sitting under this. That's the worst part of braces too is that. Yeah like that except all over your face.

[00:44:59] Yeah except that yeah. Tara how long did makeup take for you? Trina's total processing time was three hours. Yeah which is surprising right because I had much less in terms of prosthetics. But yeah from start to finish three hours. And I definitely ripped my ears off

[00:45:19] a number of times at the end of the day. And I go home I'd be driving and pulling like glue boogers off my ears. I actually got to keep a pair of my ears so I have a set of Osiris ears at home. Everyone's keeping their ears.

[00:45:34] Right ears are good. My cat really wants to eat the ears but I've managed to keep my little green ears on the mantle yet. And then Orville do you wanna? Five minutes. Five. Hardest part of your day? Five minutes. Have my coffee, smile, pat pat pat

[00:45:52] and then I'm over here done. What? Okay. We'll let you guys beat him down at the end. Yeah. I would have a question from the audience. No. He's just hanging out there. Oh okay. So Discovery is a very unique series in Star Trek

[00:46:09] let alone a unique series on its own. With being a part of it and with being a part of the larger Star Trek universe what do you hope people take away as they watch us over the years and as you know it's a divisive show

[00:46:24] and attitudes are gonna change as time goes on. What do you most hope somebody takes away while watching your show? Whatever every Star Trek show is about. It's about diversity and it's about coming together and it's about like Star Trek started out as like a moral place essentially.

[00:46:40] Every episode was this is what the moral of our story is and Roddenberry started that. Roddenberry was very quote unquote woke from the beginning. So the argument of bothers the hell out of me this like accusatory tone of like Discovery is woke

[00:46:54] or this is it bothers the hell out of me because that's what Star Trek has always been. It's always been about. I mean whether you want to call it political correctness or if it goes too far or whatever but the core of it

[00:47:08] like there's arguments to be made for all of that but the core of it is about coming together as a species so to speak or as I mean not species unless you're a progenitor they're all different species but coming together as people

[00:47:22] as aliens as characters to work together to further ourselves. That's what Star Trek is about. So people that complain about it the divisiveness of it it's starting to really piss me off and I really have to get off Twitter. I really have to get off Twitter.

[00:47:43] But we love you there, we love your posts. I really have to stop though guys. It's like. I want to pick it back up of what you just said because I truly believe that Star Trek is about family and unity. That's a huge scope

[00:47:56] and that's what we all want in the world for all of us to work together for the betterment of the human race. Now that's really difficult to sit down seven plus billion people and have them all agree on how this should run. But I say Discovery teaches you

[00:48:10] to start with a group of people that you can trust that has different traits that you can compliment each other with because none of our missions would have succeeded without the help of an individual from the team. I'm telling you, you guys saw it.

[00:48:23] Saniqua almost died like a hundred million times. If Culver didn't save her, if Tilly didn't save her if she didn't have anyone on her team with a specific set of skills she wouldn't have made it and she wouldn't have made it till the very end

[00:48:36] and see her full mission all the way through. And because she had people who she trusts, loved, respected and talented individuals that want to work together that's the reason why we made it so far. So I think we could just start there

[00:48:48] just find a group of people and expand from there. I would just say that I hope people take away from it whatever they need to take away from it. And the fact that it speaks to so many people

[00:49:06] I think is just a testament to all that it has to offer in terms of universal themes but certainly in terms of we are all one and I have this great shirt. The new Be Kind shirt. You know that's certainly something that discovery embodies on all levels.

[00:49:37] I guess the celebration of all that we can be that we might want to be but maybe we think we shouldn't be. The celebration of diversity and inclusion I guess is what I hope that they would take away from Star Trek because every character on there

[00:49:59] is really going for even Osiris she did not very good things but she did them because she wanted to protect her people. And so I think the morality of most of the people on the show, the dedication, the passion to their races, to their cause

[00:50:18] is something that perhaps we could take away with us a little bit. All right well, thank you. We've come to our final question and the show is Discovery so I'm wondering being on the show either working with the crew or embodying the character you became

[00:50:37] what did you discover about yourself being on Star Trek? I mean for me it's just okay. It's not exactly inspiring it's just literally like okay I learned that I can have patience with sitting there for four hours and then sitting there waiting to do.

[00:50:53] One thing that Discovery does and a lot of TV shows do this is they shoot a lot and there's a lot of it where I'm like you guys don't need to shoot this can I go home? Like really you don't need this shot.

[00:51:03] So it was patience for me but that was more of a technical thing. In terms of, I don't know like what will happen the show Star Trek has always just inspired me in that same way that everybody said on the stage just inspire to do better.

[00:51:15] That's the thing you love about Star Trek. Like I love all sorts of sci-fi and there's like hard sci-fi that I like depressing sci-fi that I like like sci-fi of the 70s where every movie ended in a terrible, terrible tragedy or the more hopeful sci-fi like Star Trek

[00:51:31] and that's why I think people take to it. So yeah I mean Discovery is just in that vein right in that mold of like hope. That's what it is. For me as an actor I think the technical aspect of working behind prosthetics was something

[00:51:53] that I would love to do forever because I took bigger risks and I was freer as an actor and less judgmental or concerned about my things because I was behind a mask and leaving that show after doing that has given me the sort of the impetus,

[00:52:15] the courage to be able to take those chances when I am not behind a mask and I really appreciate that and I love how much I loved working with prosthetics. I would do it again in a second. It was so much fun, yeah.

[00:52:32] Yeah just if I speak to that really quickly. It does because I always, every actor I think does this. I don't like this angle of my face. Oh I don't want to look like that. I don't want to look like this

[00:52:40] but under the mask you're like I don't care. This is great. You can look at me whatever way you want because it's not really me. That's true. I did feel that too. I discovered that I really love wearing Vulcan haute couture. Oh! Woo! But what I did,

[00:53:02] I discovered a different realm in terms of Tara the actor because up until most of my career I am a hyper emotional human being and I have been cast in many very dramatic parts historically so it was a completely new character for me to explore

[00:53:24] and I discovered that I loved. I loved sort of living on top or corseting the emotional world and being forced or invited to live through the world of the, specifically of the mind, of the logic. So that was very exciting and challenging and deeply rewarding.

[00:53:47] The thing I discovered, I think I'm still discovering in myself is still a journey for me. What I discovered was from watching Sonequa and David Adjala, from watching Sonequa I truly discovered what it truly meant to be a leader

[00:54:06] because as an actor or just as a human being, but I'll speak on acting more because most of my friends are in the industry and they want to reach the pinnacle of their career and the pinnacle of their career is just being a lead.

[00:54:17] But I think we all shoot for it but we don't really know what that mantle requires of us and it's like, because we're looking at the short-sightedness of it. Being a good lead means being a good leader and watching Sonequa on set every day

[00:54:31] of how she carries and changes the energy of the entire cast and crew. I'm telling you, we're on hour 13 and everyone just had, I don't know, cheesecake donuts from the donut truck. I don't know who ordered the cheesecake donuts at two a.m. in the morning

[00:54:43] when we were doing an explosion scene but it was a bad idea. But Sonequa knew that the energy's falling and she can come and bring it back up and it's like, we refresh and we're starting the day again and she's a really good leader

[00:54:53] because she just makes everyone smile. She comes around, gives everyone a fist pound before we start and really energizes everyone and watching David Ajala was really inspiring to me as an actor because his focus is incredible. Like everyone is having a great time on set

[00:55:08] before the cameras roll. David is so serious. He's doing squats, he's doing push-up, he's yelling, he's getting into the mood and soon action comes on. I swear to you, one time I was just looking from the, because I wasn't on camera, it was just him, his close-up.

[00:55:20] I swear to you he was doing this and Tunde yelled action and he went. And it was the most beautiful moment. I almost shed a tear. I was just like, these are the two people. I almost saw them as my set parents

[00:55:32] where David Ajala is a strong father figure and Sonequa's a loving mother and I wanna take both of those energies and incorporate it in my craft so that's something I'm still discovering myself, how to be a great leader and how to be a focused, determined and strong actor.

[00:55:45] And I'm so grateful that I got to witness these two beautiful and amazing artists on the show. That's fantastic. Thank you everybody. And remember the lessons from our characters. Find your family, find true love, fight for your people. Don't do too many drugs, all right.

[00:56:02] And here is our Strange Do Worlds theories and queries panel. It is a bit truncated. The audience participation went a little bit off the rails but we kept the salient points for theories and queries of Strange Do Worlds season three. We had a great time.

[00:56:28] We opened up the entire convention with this panel. It was the first panel and man, I think we set off on a good foot. So enjoy and we will see you next time for a very special guest interview for our Strange Do Worlds recasting 80s and 90s actors

[00:56:47] if it were made in the TNG era. So enjoy. Hello everybody, welcome to Trek Long Island. We're the opening panel tonight. We are here to present season three Strange New Worlds theories and queries. I am John T. Boulds, one of the hosts of Open Pike Night.

[00:57:05] I'm Cameron Harrison, one of the other hosts of Open Pike Night. My name is Todd A. Davis. I'm the host of the Computer Resume Podcast available now wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, I'm Julian Brown. I'm the host and creator of Strange New Pod.

[00:57:18] Also wherever you find your podcasts. Before we get really started, we just wanna thank everybody working and organizing Trek Long Island. This is such an amazing effort. I'm looking really forward to this weekend. I think everybody's gonna have a great time.

[00:57:34] So with that, we're gonna go ahead and get started. What we are, this is the second time we've done a theories and queries podcast and we have a few surprises tonight and a few little bits of hints from cast and crew of Strange New Worlds.

[00:57:50] Whenever we interview them on the podcast, we ask for a one word tease. But first up, we have a special call in. That's right. Yeah, we've got a long time to go to season three. So all we got are these little nibbles. Hey, this is Henry Alonzo Myers.

[00:58:05] Excited to say hello to Open Pike Night and everyone in the audience here at the theories and queries panel. In fact, I'm so excited. I feel compelled to share with you that at the very end of season three, there's gonna be an amazing. I'm so sorry.

[00:58:21] I'm so sorry. I gotta go. I'll talk to you guys later though. Classic Henry. He always tries to evade that question of what's gonna happen. But no, we don't like spoilers but we like speculating wildly and that's what we're here to do tonight. Yeah, I'm ready.

[00:58:39] Ready to go wild. Podcast was gone wild. I just love Henry. Yeah, I know. Like legitimately, like one of the nicest dudes in the world. Yeah. I don't have to take my shirt off, do I? You don't have to but. Okay, good.

[00:58:53] This podcast is gonna get fun real quick. All right, yeah. You guys don't know what's in this Tumblr. I was gonna say, I'm the one who has the beer. Well, yeah and John. A beer? All right, yeah, we've been collecting some one word teases

[00:59:07] of what we have been getting out of the cast and crew and let's hear those. Well, then the other ask is we've tiptoed around season three a little bit. Is there a single word you can give us to tease us about season three

[00:59:18] that out of context means nothing but when we watch season three, we'll go, ah, Martin. I suppose my word would be, but I'm so nervous in case I'm messing up but al denteum. Just see if that comes up. Terrarium. When that word comes up, you'll maybe remember but.

[00:59:40] I know exactly what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say, mortegas. You heard it here first. But I'm gonna say mortegas. You know what's number one. Dun dun dun. Perfect. Magical maybe? Well, I was gonna say, you know, surprise. It could be many things. It could be everything.

[01:00:08] It could be very specific or it could be very general. But after the season airs, we can talk more about it. Okay. The word is home. All right. Well, that explains everything about season three right there. Yeah, right there. I mean, do we, exactly.

[01:00:32] We don't even need to stream it when it comes out. They certainly don't need the numbers to say they want every season to be, every show to be what? 10, 20 seasons? How many are we looking for? So yes, we had Al Dentyam from Martin Quinn,

[01:00:44] who is our new Scotty. We had Mortegas from writer Bill Wolkoff. Surprising from Marjorie Simkin, one of the casting directors. Our interview with Marjorie and Orly will be releasing Tuesday right after this panel, right after the convention. Terrarium from director Jordan Canning, who directed Charades last season.

[01:01:04] Home from our very own Ortegas, Melissa Navia. Magical from Orly Sidowitz, the other casting director for the series and for Star Trek Discovery. And dun, dun, dun, for Christina Chong, who is of course, long duty and sick. Well, I wanna start off with this query.

[01:01:24] You know, at the end of season two, my question was, would our new Scotty be sticking around for all of season three or was he just gonna pop in and out sort of like Kirk? What do we think? Oh, he's absolutely sticking around

[01:01:36] because we have to rekindle the relationship between Palaea and Scotty so that their bond grows strong before Palaea dies. Oh boy, yeah, I'm gonna say Scotty's sticking around the whole season, but I was gonna say that's so Palaea

[01:01:54] can go run off on Adventures with Amanda, for a reason. So, you know, I think that needs to happen at some point, for sure. But yeah, he's around the whole season. Absolutely, he's here, he's here for good in the series.

[01:02:05] I think he'll show up more than Jim Kirk has been. I think he will become our Enterprise Engineer near or at the end of the season. Yeah, I think there's gonna be some mentorship. I think Palaea's gonna stick around a little longer

[01:02:17] and we get to see, and hopefully we get to see, yeah, some fun, it seemed like they have a really good back and forth, those two characters. Yeah, I also just wanna add with Scotty, we kinda know that at some point in a future with Pike as captain

[01:02:31] that he's the Chief Engineer at some point. So it's not like out of the realm of possibility for him to take over. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah, we did get some words that, you know, some information we didn't get for our podcast

[01:02:43] but that have come through press and other things. So we had, what's our next? Yeah, well let's talk genres because old Kiva had joked that. Muppets? Sure, let's have some Muppets. Which I'd be down for. I mean, season two has shown

[01:03:00] that Stranger Worlds likes to play in the genre. Sandbox. Well, here's the thing, are we going to get like Muppets popping over shoulders or is it gonna be weird when you see Kermit walk? Because it is unsettling. I just wanna say the entire- Kermit walking is unsettling,

[01:03:18] you can fight me on that, that's fine. But it's unsettling. The entire crew riding bicycles as puppets. Yeah, yeah, we can't have that. If they do it as well as the angel episode then I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Yeah, fair.

[01:03:31] The other genre hint we got came from Jonathan Frakes in the same article I believe saying he is directing a Hollywood murder mystery. So my question for everyone is what genres do you think or would you just like to see Stranger Worlds tackle next? Ooh, good show. Nice.

[01:03:49] Is it absolutely horrible of me to say Hollywood murder mystery because like the minute that he said that I just wanted this episode to come out now. Have I got good news for you, Julian? It's coming out! It's coming! Oh my God, amazing!

[01:04:02] No, like legitimately I didn't know what I wanted just knowing the cliffhanger that we get at the end of season two and I just wanna know what happens with that and then you get this interview from Variety where he says that and I'm like

[01:04:15] I don't think I've wanted anything in Star Trek Wars since we've already gotten the musical and the Lower Decks crossover. Absolutely. So with these words here, with all these clues dropped from the cast and crew, does anybody have a theory based on those? Because I can start.

[01:04:30] I've got a fun one for Terrarium. It is what I'm going for. Alright, so we've had a fantasy episode where everybody hallucinated there with somebody else. We've had a musical episode. We've had all kinds of stuff, weird, weird stuff happen to this crew in 20 episodes

[01:04:45] and I kind of feel like Terrarium from Jordan Canning is a hint at, I'm gonna spoil one of our future slides here, is a hint that that shot we got in Variety of Spock working in his lab. I think the entire crew is gonna be stricken

[01:05:03] with some crazy space madness. Who knows what? It's gonna be something way out there and Spock is the only one who can solve it. Make it tight. No, no, no. They're all faking it and just messing with Spock. A whole nine times. That would be so mean.

[01:05:19] It's an hour long Jim and Dwight prank. Yeah, absolutely. Fantastic. The whole crew in on it and then just one morning everything's back to normal and Spock, what are you talking about? Am I wrong in thinking that Jordan Canning also said though that we know

[01:05:35] that she comes from the comedy background but that she was doing a more serious episode this season? Did I just make that up? I'm not sure. I feel like she said that somewhere. I could be dead wrong. Maybe he solves some mystery of the universe by accident

[01:05:48] while the crew is messing with him. Maybe it's one of those oops, I made dynamite kind of things. Well, sure, I'll do my theory next which goes into the genres. We actually had a whole article on genres

[01:06:01] we wanted to see if you wanted to go to openpike.com is my organic plug here and you can check out our genre trekking article. So I'm stealing this one from there but we've got a lot on there. So back in our very first interview

[01:06:12] with Henry Alonzo Meyer, I think it was Abby from the First Flight Con First Flight Podcast asked him about holiday specials and he lit up and told us he loves holiday specials I thought you could see the gears turning this head.

[01:06:27] So I think we're getting a holiday special and that's my semi-serious theory. If I may speculate a bit more wildly, I think Bill Wolkoff's Mortegas is telling us more than we think it is. It could just mean we're getting more Ortegas but Bill's a good wordsmith

[01:06:41] and I think we're getting more than one Ortegas. I think we're getting a classic Trek doubles episode maybe triple or quadruple with Ortegas. And so I think we are gonna learn that some of her war trauma that has been implied happened around the holiday Christmas time for her

[01:07:00] and she'd become a bit of a Scrooge. And what's the one thing that can pull her out of that? Perhaps a visit from the ghosts of Ortegas past, present and future. I mean, we got a it's a wonderful life version

[01:07:11] of alternate timeline and time travel in season one. Why not a Christmas Carol version here? Why does Ortegas making it to the Christmas party affect the timeline? I don't know, I'm gonna leave that to a good writer like Bill Wolkoff to figure out but that's my theory.

[01:07:25] Is it okay if I combine two? Absolutely. Please. I mean, whatever. I'm gonna go crazy. So I, Terrarium and Aldentium seem like they could combine very easily. Like Scotty is gonna come up with some crazy way to build a terrarium out of Aldentium

[01:07:43] which seems like a very powerful metal. What? That's so out of character. That's so out of character. Scotty would never do anything like that and I think Jordan Canning said she's or via Instagram is directing episode three of season three. Y'all can correct me after the panel

[01:08:01] but if that's right, you could still theoretically say you're doing something with the Gorn and maybe they're building like a habitat for the Gorn to do their Gorn thing as a way to like slow them down and they're like, well, we'll go

[01:08:15] and this is why we don't see the Gorn again until TOS so they build the Gorn their own terrarium. Oh, cute. You could get baby Gorn pets. Baby Gorn pets and everything. Yes. Yeah. My son would definitely want a baby Gorn pet. I'd like a Gorn plushie

[01:08:29] but Paramount doesn't know how to market so. Oh my God, look, raise it up. Come on, there we go. But did you get that from anywhere Paramount related? There we go. Of course not. Why would you make money off of your Thank you, Target.

[01:08:49] How dare you make money off your own IDs. Screw these words. Doctor Who crossover. Witch Doctor. No, no, the British, the British one. Not a witch doctor. Witch doctor. That's a good comment. Written by a British Doctor. Absolutely. All right so. It worked in the comics. Yeah.

[01:09:16] So I've got a query based on some of this and some of the conversation we've had with our guests. Do you think the Gorn threat will be pretty much passed by the time season three is over? Yes. Yes. No. I think we've gotten the tip of the iceberg.

[01:09:37] Although I think, to be honest the first showing of the Gorn was a little bit more of a favorite of mine because I love the idea of finding out that the Gorn are kind of more like the shark in Jaws. Like the less you see of them,

[01:09:54] the more terrifying they are and we've gotten a pretty good look at them but that just means we have to ratchet up. Like, oh you thought that one episode was scary. Buckle up. Like, and I trust this crew to do that. Memento Mori was terrific. Oh it's terrific.

[01:10:11] Yeah. Absolutely terrific. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not taking anything away from that episode. But yeah, it's, yeah. I want to see them. I mean they, they're batting a thousand. So like let's start swinging for the fences. You know what I mean? Yeah I think, I think they're,

[01:10:30] I don't think it's going to be just like, oh we're done, we're never going to see them again until TOS and, which is all right, threat over onto the new threat. I don't feel like the writers and the current show owners would do it

[01:10:41] with that hard of a stop but I do think, I think we'll be on the down slope. I think there will be some control measure. Some, I don't know. I wouldn't want to say like bioengineered disease that feels really dark for Starfleet even in that timeframe.

[01:10:55] Oh you mean the changelings and the. Exactly. Yeah not like Starfleet has it to something like that before. Yeah, yeah. I just think it's a little early for that from Starfleet but it's not impossible. But maybe a famine, maybe something from the core

[01:11:10] of the Goran civilization is going to start spreading outward to their, to the rest of their ships. Yeah so I have a question kind of spinning off of that. Go for it. When I was prepping for this panel, as you can tell by my copious notes,

[01:11:28] I had two questions and one was who's coming back? Which I think we've already talked about that a little bit and who's gonna die. And let's be honest, like nothing ratchets up the immediacy and emotion connected with a cast than seeing one of them die.

[01:11:51] And we've got some folks that we know aren't making it to TOS. In which case, who narratively, who does it make sense to die at the hand of the Goran? And I think we all know the answer to that question.

[01:12:10] Do I think it's gonna happen in season three? No. Do I think it's gonna happen before the end of the run? Bet your ass. Anybody not know who we're talking about? Raise your hand if you don't know who we're talking about. I believe we're all talking about Lon.

[01:12:24] Pike's horse? Absolutely. Oh okay, sorry. Now I wanna make sure we are all on the same page. There is someone else I think who is going to die. Don't say that. Don't you dare. Don't you dare. It is funny that like the two people who, right, it's Battelle.

[01:12:41] Her fate is certainly in question. And then Pellia. But I feel like both of them kind of have narrative bullet proof armor right now because if Battelle died, she would die in the exact same way Hammer did. And I don't think the writers are that hacky

[01:12:57] to kill off two characters in the same way. And kind of with Pellia, like oh they're gonna kill the engineer off again and graduate up a new engineer. It doesn't seem like they're just gonna follow that map. Yeah, cause Scotty doesn't,

[01:13:07] I don't think Scotty ever really got any sort of, that we saw on screen tragedy until RavidCon. But I just think you need the buddy cop between Pellia and Scotty right? Like he's too green to become the chief engineer so you need like their hands.

[01:13:26] The buddy cop thing has to get both of them out of their elements and for engineers so we're talking, the Christmas party. That's the Christmas special. I knew it. I thought he was just being like, so we dance to this song? Just constantly ending up under the mistletoe.

[01:13:41] Yeah, I was just gonna say. Just are, is Scotty an orphan? Is he ready to be an actual officer yet or does he still have both parents living? Oh Jesus. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? How many orphans are there in command level of Starfleet?

[01:13:58] Listen, they need a whole panel for that. If he's ever going to become Batman, we need both of them to die. Absolutely, absolutely. We want to hear from our other caller. Yes, we have our dear co-host on Open Pike Night, Jesse could not be here

[01:14:14] but he sent us both a theory and a query. We'll start with the theory. Hello Trek Long Island Trekkies. This is Jesse from Open Pike Night. I'm very bummed that I can't be there with my wonderful co-hosts to experience the convention with you

[01:14:29] but I just couldn't help myself. I have to send a theory for season three of Strange New Worlds. I think that with Scotty and Pellia still on the Enterprise, both being engineering marvels and with the away team trapped on the Gorn ship,

[01:14:47] the only way to keep everyone safe and alive and resolve the conflict outside of some form of diplomatic understanding, which could happen but I don't think it will. I think Scotty and Pellia will find a way to simulate some kind of artificial sunspot

[01:15:05] that will tell the Gorn that they need to go to sleep, much like Geordi and Data did in Best of Both Worlds part two. I think this works because it keeps everything intact. Maybe they find some way to keep the Gorn from reporting what happened

[01:15:23] so that TOS cannon stays intact but even if it doesn't, I don't really care. I love Strange New Worlds and I think they're doing a great job with the cannon and sometimes that means discarding it when it's necessary. Have an excellent convention

[01:15:35] and don't forget to listen to Open Pike Night. That was a great plug. Jesse is a master at that. Very good. Jesse, we miss you. We're sorry you can't be here but thank you very much for the theory. I mean if you invented this up. Yeah. Right?

[01:15:50] That's just science. It reverses the polarity. Listen, I'm a podcaster in comedian but that is science. And if you take a warp board and blow it up, I mean you can do a lot of stuff with that. Hey, dial it back. Is Shaxx there though to do it?

[01:16:03] That's the most important question. We'll load Shaxx into a torpedo tube and just. I'll add onto his theory just a little bit and say I like the sunspot idea. I like getting them to go dormant again but what happens when sunspots, big ones go off?

[01:16:20] There's a lot of electrical stuff that gets messed with and so it just happens to hit all of the records of the gorn that Starfleet has. And. Oh no, well like so it damages Enterprise which causes them to have to basically downgrade into what we get into.

[01:16:40] Don't, come on. Don't feed the trolls. Listen, listen. How else are we gonna get cardboard sets if we don't front, listen, to have something new and great means you have to tear the old thing down, okay? This is a wonderful group of amazing Trekkies

[01:16:58] and Trek fans here at Trek Carolina but you know there's gotta be at least one person here who's like that's not the Enterprise. I'm not wrong. I'm still waiting for Jim Kirk to walk in the next quarters and be like these quarters are big. You've got a body.

[01:17:13] I'm downgraded. It's too much, no captain should have this. We talked about this theory Goddow's one because I feel like Stranger Worlds has been off forever. We talked about the sunspot theory. It's a good theory. I hope it's not as simple as what Jesse said though

[01:17:29] is like data, sleep data. We needed to have a little bit more substance because like you said these writers know what they're doing. They've written some really great episodes so I really hope it's not just as simple as that. It's a little bit more.

[01:17:48] They have to eject Pellia into the sun. They do, thank you. They have to have Scotty have some kind of widget. Yeah the question has to be asked so Pellia how immortal are you? What kind of immortal are we talking?

[01:18:05] The progenitors would not be able to bring her back. No. Too soon? Too soon. I would like to see what a sunspot does to her hair though. Oh man, oh absolutely. It'd be like a million balloons rubbing against the head just poof.

[01:18:23] She just comes out looking like Miracle Max's wife. I'm not a witch, I'm a man. Yeah. Have fun storming the gorn. Guys who is playing Cybok? Who? I know exactly. Zachary Gwinna. Oh okay. Oh man. Next question. I know he's too old but I can't get

[01:18:46] Antonio Banderas out of my head, I'm sorry. I'm sticking with him. We don't know how Vulcans age. That sounds like something that we shouldn't discuss. Oh okay. If you can't get him out of your head. I'm just. This is a family event. It's Antonio.

[01:19:00] This is a family event? You should probably bow back. Have you seen, okay. Yeah. Original sin. I like the Zachary Quinto theory. That boy, that would be a big swing on the part of everybody. I'd love to see, God. Oh so there's this comedian named Todd A. Davis.

[01:19:25] I would love to see him in a bowl cut with some pointy ears. Dialing back his little brother energy to play Cybok. Yeah. And since no one thinks that's funny, I'll say pick one of them Doc. Get Matt Smith, I don't care.

[01:19:41] Ooh, I think he's got too much of a baby face though. You haven't seen me without a beard sir. Well do we have clippers? That'll cost you extra. Ooh. I'll take the obvious and fun answer. I'm gonna say, because we talked about it, Bruce Horak.

[01:19:57] I think they bring Bruce Horak back. Maybe just a little bit. But you tripled it. Absolutely, you tripled it. Look at Jeffrey Combs. Look at, I mean. I retract my statement, yeah. That's the Jeffrey Combs theory. That's another, that's science folks. Yeah.

[01:20:11] I mean if Jeffrey Combs were younger, I would say Jeffrey Combs. Jeffrey Combs could still come back as Dr. Breck. Oh boys. Absolutely. I'd like Jeffrey Combs to come back as my own dad. Okay, can I add one more? I basically said Zachary Quinnow

[01:20:25] just to get a reaction from MC. My real answer is half Zachary Quinnow, half if they could be a hybrid, no BS here. John Krasinski. I think he's got like. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like he would really work

[01:20:43] and he could also do kind of the crazy bit. If you've seen any of Jack Ryan on Prime, like when he gets in a mood, just saying. Well like it might just be the fantastic four connection but now I've got Pedro Pascal in my head.

[01:20:57] Would also work really well. Absolutely. You have a tie. Basically. Yeah. We're all wearing masks at times. I've known this guy for 22 years. Listen, this is a safe space. So I think just nominate Pedro Pascal. All right, he's our new. Excellent. I think that has started.

[01:21:17] I think that is the way they should go. But we don't have. Available for parties, bar mitzvahs, corporate events. Thanks so much everybody. All right, so we'll get Jesse's query now? Yeah, let's get Jesse's query and we'll get to some of those too.

[01:21:34] If you thought that was all I was gonna send then you just don't listen to Open Pike Night because you know I have more to say. This time it's a query for season three of Strange New Worlds. Knowing that they have made kind of a big deal

[01:21:46] of Spock and Chappell getting ready to spend some time apart. And knowing as we do that Chappell is going to an internship, do we think that we will get to see her on her internship? Or do we think that she'll just be gone from a couple of episodes?

[01:22:04] And bonus question, do we think we might get to see a young Dr. McCoy temporarily take over for Christine Chappell while she is away learning about androids? All right, that's all I got. I promise this time that's really it. Listen to Open Pike Night.

[01:22:25] Like he does his residency on Enterprise. Sure. So now we need a Scrubs episode. We need a Scrubs episode but Bones is JD and yeah, we'll round out the rest of that crew. Or maybe they go so dark with this season and he's like all cheerful and friendly.

[01:22:44] Yeah, he just destroys it. I don't have a red shirt but I have red shoes. I think I'm for Scrubs. I don't know how many people I speak for here but I really hope that we don't see Bones ever on Stranger Worlds unless he comes attached

[01:23:02] with Jim Kirk. Who hurt you? No one hurt me but like Jim, like no seriously though, like Jim Kirk I feel like is attached to Bones. That's a friendship. It's not Pike and Bones, right? You have Pike and Spock established from the menagerie in The Cage.

[01:23:20] Bones and Kirk you get from multiple episodes of the original series from the Kelvinverse. I mean two peas in a pod. I don't wanna see him unless he's like Kirk's doctor aboard the Farragut, right? And they somehow give him an episode. I'd like to just honestly,

[01:23:38] there's nothing wrong with Stranger Worlds introducing original characters and another, an original nurse would be great. Like someone we've never met before. So no I'd rather not see Bones. Yeah I think she'll do her internship over the break. I think when we come back

[01:23:55] she'll be coming back from her internship. I think Jess Bush is there for as many episodes as they can get her into. They love her. I saw Dr. Cochran walk in which means it's about time for us to wrap up our panel.

[01:24:06] I've got one more word I thought in the middle of all of this talking about genres and the Hollywood murder mystery just, hashtag Nortagus. Ooh. Nortagus. Love that. They would've done a western. Oh I mean that's coming. That's coming. That's coming. I'd love to see where,

[01:24:23] I mean cause Subspace Rhapsody we got the musical. I'd like to see them hit with something else and everybody goes like goth emo. I think that'd be really, that's just fun. I wanna see Spock on a horse next to Pike.

[01:24:34] Yeah I just wanna see Daddy Pike on a horse again. Yes. Thank you everybody for joining us. I'm John Diebold. Cameron Harrison. Tati Davis. Joining us now. We appreciate you all. Enjoy the convention. Welcome to Trek Long Island everybody. Yeah.

[01:24:55] We'd like to thank Trek Long Island once again for inviting us to host these panels and for inviting us to the show. It was fantastic to see how much podcast or support there was from this new, more fledgling type convention.

[01:25:09] But man, if you get a chance to go to Trek Long Island, Open Pike Night gives it a whole hearted seal of approval. It's been a long night. It's been a long weekend. It's gonna be a long summer and a long time till we see strange new worlds.

[01:25:23] So Open Pike Night has to go get some sleep. So be sure to clean up after yourselves. Be sure to tip your servers. You can go anywhere you want, but you can't stay here.