Confessions of a Secret Captain: Open Pike Night interview with Dana Gasperine

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_08]: This is Dana Gasperine and you're listening to Open Pike Night by and for Avid Strange New Worlds fans.

[00:00:15] [SPEAKER_11]: Is this thing on? Hello, hello.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Welcome to Open Pike Night, the Strange New Worlds podcast where your hails are the prime directive.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm your host John T. Bolds here tonight with my co-host.

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Joining me, the man who yada yada yada say something funny here, host of Sudden but Inevitable, Jesse.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right, James. Wait, wait. Okay.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right John, I am excited to be talking with a professional editor tonight. Use take two.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_11]: And the man who blah blah blah maybe some joke about ripple deletes or color correction on the uniform here, host of green shirt, undubesstractor TNG, Cameron.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_11]: That is the final cut, John.

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[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Our guest tonight is no stranger to the editing room floor.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_11]: She's the one who drops all your favorite actors on it with the cold efficient blade of the editor's knife.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Or maybe Final Cut Pro premiere. Do people still use Avid?

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Welcome to our guest, Dana Gasperine.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_10]: That's the reaction we want.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Most people still use Avid. Oh my goodness.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_08]: My goodness. Yes. No, I'm sorry.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Hi everybody. Thanks for having me.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, thank you for being here.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_10]: Absolutely. Well, we've just offended our guest right off the get go.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But alternatively, I think it's the biggest laugh we've ever had right off the bat too.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So some creative cutting and you know, that could be basically perfect. Yeah.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_10]: All right. Well, so we'll just jump right in then to when a young Dana Gasperine first got interested in video editing.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_10]: How did you get that bug?

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_08]: So I actually, I got into editing in high school.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I know a lot of people are lifelong video and TV people and I always liked movies and film or movies and TV.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And I always liked movies and television.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_08]: But I when I was junior in high school, I took a video media production course or something like that.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And one of my good friends and I, she would produce everything and I would edit everything.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_08]: And then she grew up to be a producer and I grew up to be an editor, but now she works at Google.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_08]: So it's a little different. I'm still editing though.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_08]: So I kept with it. The things I remember the most are the music videos we made.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And when I first, when I was first thinking about what I wanted to do after high school,

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_08]: my thought process was more, oh, I'm going to be a music video editor.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to do that even though it was like well past like MTV music videos were already on the downhill.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_08]: People weren't watching them anymore. And so then I had to change gears.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Now are we talking mini TVs? Did you have to log in capture for that?

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Or were you shooting digital already by that point?

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, as many TVs, we did have to log in captured.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I just forgot about that.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Movie making.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not supposed to retraumatize people, John.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, I had to go through all that.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_11]: You wouldn't believe the box of mini TVs I have downstairs.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah. Just just a show, John and I's age.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_10]: We had to strap two VCRs together and edit deck to deck was my first short film.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_08]: So the first editor I ever worked with it.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm pretty sure she only kept me around because she came from the film world

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and wasn't into the tech digital stuff as much.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, she was totally she was extremely talented, very capable and did a great job,

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_08]: but didn't want to deal with her tech issues.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Anything went wrong and she could be like, hey, please fix this.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_08]: There you go.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, that would be nice.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_10]: Tech issues are the worst part of editing.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Cam, did you ever have to cut 16 millimeter?

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_11]: I never cut film.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but it was like I've never done it.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I was there when Super 8 turned into mini TV and Firewire came out.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like a targeted T-shirt you would see on Facebook.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_10]: I would buy that T-shirt.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh my gosh, we should be late for that T-shirt.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_11]: I was just thinking I would 100% buy that.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, it's great that you mentioned the first editor you worked with

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_11]: because our first caller Newman kind of has a question about that.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_11]: Here we go.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Hi, Open Pike.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_09]: This is Newman, space hippie extraordinaire from the Movies for Days podcast.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_09]: According to IMDB, you're fantastically talented and awesome guest.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Also edited Children of the Comet, which is an episode that I rewatched this week

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_09]: with my wife and was so profoundly overcome with emotion at Uhura's journey,

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_09]: finding her place, not knowing if she belongs,

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_09]: and the monumentally inspirational speeches that she gets from both Pike and Spock.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Recently, I took over a preschool class as a substitute

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_09]: and it became a much more long-term assignment than expected.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I got very emotionally involved in the children's lives

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_09]: and there were a lot of, you're the only person for the job,

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_09]: so step up, you're here because you belong here.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Moments.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Did you have big moments in your early editing career

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_09]: where you learned a huge lesson from someone?

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And is that something you could speak about?

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Love your work.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Love the show.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Keep rocking and rolling.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Newman out.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, Newman.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_08]: That was like, that was seriously such a sweet question

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and sounds like a very sweet journey he's on.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been very fortunate, I think, in my editorial career.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I did the Ace Internship program and it really introduced me to a lot of

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_08]: super amazing editors and assistant editors

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and people who were assistant editors at the time

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_08]: who are now editors full-time and editors who have retired

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and stuff like that too.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_08]: And the two editors I worked the most closely with in my career

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_08]: are Lori Jane Coleman and Peter Forslund.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: They're both Ace editors, they're both extremely talented people

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_08]: that are, I love them both so much.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I learned a million good lessons from both of them.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Something I learned from Lori was that this is just a job

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and a career and I say that because I like,

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I think most people who get into any kind of film and television

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_08]: making and really any kind of art form,

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_08]: you're doing it because you're really passionate

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's the only thing you can see in the world that you want

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's the only concept of happiness you can have out there

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_08]: in the work world.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And my great aunt was very sick and passed away

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was working with Lori on a show that was really difficult.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_08]: It was just stressful hours and I was her assistant

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was one of these days where, I mean she was just so good to me.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_08]: There was one day my dad called me

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and my great aunt was passing away

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and at this point I lost all my grandparents.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I had only known my grandmothers but at this point

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_08]: she was as close to a grandparent as I had left

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and we were pretty close

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and so he called me and told me what's happened.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like crying on the phone

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_08]: and she's trying to call into my office

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_08]: like I need something, I need something

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm just not and then finally I was on the phone falling

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and I go in her office and I just keep falling

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_08]: talking to my dad and then I get off the phone

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and she is just like okay take a breath

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_08]: tell me what's going on

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and I told her what was happening

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and you know she, this was a Friday

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and we knew we had a Saturday to work

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_08]: and we knew we were working the next day on Saturday

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and long story short I told her what was happening

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_08]: and she said go home

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was still pretty early in my assisting career

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and the last thing you want to do is seem like

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_08]: you're not working hard, you're not passionate about this

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: you don't want this as much as the next guy

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_08]: because there are so so so many people

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_08]: who want to do what we do

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and not everybody's going to be lucky enough to

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and in that moment she was just like

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_08]: she got on the computer, she looked up a flight

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_08]: we booked it and our like wonderful PA at the time

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_08]: who's now like post super because she's awesome

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_08]: she took me to the airport and I went home

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was lucky enough to see my great aunt

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I was there the next morning on Saturday morning

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I saw her in the morning I spent all day there

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and she passed that night

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_08]: so because at first I was like

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll go after work tomorrow

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_08]: but I never would have gotten a chance to see her

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and so the moral of that story was that

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_08]: this is a passion and this is an amazing job

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_08]: and I would never want to do anything else

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_08]: but at the same time it's okay to have other loves and passions

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's okay to remember sometimes

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_08]: like this is just a job

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and sometimes when things aren't going well

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_08]: that it's just not going well this time

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_08]: and it might go well in the future

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and then I worked with Peter Forsson

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_08]: for the majority of my assistant career

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and he was a really really big part of getting me to move up

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Peter's always been in my corner

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's also extremely talented

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and when it comes to actual editing tips

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and technique I probably learned the most from him

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_08]: because we worked together for so long

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_08]: one lesson I remember Peter told me

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_08]: was like you don't have to be so nervous

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and talk all the time

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: because you need to be quiet

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: clearly I just learned that lesson

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_08]: but like whatever it's cool

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: some lessons you study for a long time

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_08]: he also him and Lori both

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_08]: they both taught me the lesson

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_08]: you should have a reason to make a cut

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_08]: you shouldn't just randomly

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_08]: you should know why you're cutting

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_08]: like oh did Dana just stumble ten times in a row

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and so we're gonna cut to Jesse's reaction

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_08]: so that we can link her audio underneath

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and then we'll come back to her

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and then Cameron and John have a great reaction to that

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's very important that we know what they're thinking

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_08]: because they're making the markers in the whatever

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_08]: okay this is a bad example I'm sorry

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I love her getting to myself for that

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: completely following it

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_08]: okay cool cool cool cool

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah basically like I know

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_08]: the two lessons I got from Peter

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_08]: you know have a reason why you make a cut

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_08]: because whenever I would cut scenes and he would

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_08]: review them for me and give me notes

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was you know starting out and everything

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_08]: he would if he didn't know why I did something

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_08]: or you know really just translation

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_08]: didn't like what I did

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_08]: he'd be like why'd you do that

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_10]: I've gotten those questions and you're like

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_10]: it felt right

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and people I will say I've had directors

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and I've had showrunners all ask me that

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_08]: why'd you do that or why'd you cut

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_08]: because I've been lucky enough that

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I've worked with a lot of really great people

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and most of the time they're working with you

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_08]: because they think you have something to contribute

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_08]: so if you show them something they weren't expecting

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_08]: especially directors I think

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_08]: in television at least

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_08]: if you show them something they weren't expecting

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_08]: they kind of want to know why you did it

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_08]: because maybe they're maybe you're setting up

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_08]: something they are not aware of

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_08]: especially in television where we only have our directors

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_08]: you know usually for one episode

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_08]: at least in streaming

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean in broadcast where they have more episodes

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes directors come back a little more often

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_08]: per season but

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_08]: like so I might have already

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_08]: read all the way through the rest of the season

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_08]: or however many scripts we have out

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and so I might make a cut

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_08]: because I know like

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_08]: you know John's gonna have this big reveal

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_08]: in two episodes

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, start setting up my mood now before then

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly, yeah, I should see his face

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_08]: That's actually fascinating

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_10]: that's great that's interesting

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_08]: that and the other thing

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_08]: that Peter very much instilled in me

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_08]: is like not to make a cut

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_08]: on a blink

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_08]: when people's eyes are like

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_08]: let them finish blinking

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_08]: because he said

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I remember he told me that more often than not

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_08]: somebody's gonna give you a note on that

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and they're not gonna know why they're giving you a note

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but they're gonna give you a note on it and he is so right

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_10]: You gotta love those easy

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_10]: like tips like oh just don't cut on a blink

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_10]: I can do that, that's easy

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean sometimes it's not

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_08]: because sometimes you get people who definitely

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_08]: blink a lot

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_08]: they have very like

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_08]: you know they squint when they talk

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_08]: because they're really in the moment

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and so you can't really tell if they're blinking

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So what I really love

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: about both Newman's question

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and Dana's answer

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: is that

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: they really reinforce something that we have come to find

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: here at Open Pike Night

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: through the course of all of our interviews

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: which is like

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: huge budget, gorgeous

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: excellent cinematic television

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that we get to watch

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: is made by a lot of people

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: going out of their way

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: to be good humans

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: to other people

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: just passing on the skills

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that they learned the hard way

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: as easily as they can

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think especially in

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the current climate of streaming

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and striking and

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: ratification of contracts and things like that

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: having some reminders for that

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: is really cool so thank you

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: again Newman and Dana those were

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: really good

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_10]: Well before we get to Star Trek and Strangest New World

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_10]: did I want to hit a couple of your other credits

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_10]: I mean I know you were

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_10]: just in a production assistant on this but you have to

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_10]: have some Dark Knight Rise stories

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I do

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Audience she is so excited

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_11]: I am

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_08]: almost everybody who knows me

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_08]: has heard this story

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and a lot of people were involved in this story

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_08]: so okay for Dark Knight Rises

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: the way I was a production assistant

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_08]: on Dark Knight Rises was

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I was going to college in Pittsburgh

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and they shot part of the movie there

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Pittsburgh is not like New York or LA

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_08]: or at least

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_08]: at that point it wasn't

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Pittsburgh has a big film scene

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_08]: and movies and TV came there

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and stuff and have definitely been there since

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's actually a really cool place to shoot

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_08]: so like all the more power to them

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's not a city

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_08]: that's used to

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_08]: filmmaking

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_08]: so everybody was on high alert

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_08]: like oh people are here like movies and TV stars

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_08]: so I was a waitress

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_08]: at a restaurant in Pittsburgh

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and one of my tables

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_08]: there was three of them they were talking about

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_08]: cameras and whatnot and you just

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_08]: knew that they were

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_08]: you knew that they were working on the movie

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I knew it right away

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_08]: but like young Dana was like

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to make them my friends

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to talk to them this is going to be how I get into the industry

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_08]: so dumb

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_08]: but um

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_10]: I'm relating with you so hard right now

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_10]: I've been in that exact situation

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_08]: because when you're young

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_08]: you're like every single opportunity

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_08]: is going to make a break

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_08]: my entire life

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's not

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_08]: you think it is and maybe it could

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but it probably won't

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know what kind of BS I pulled out of my ass

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_08]: but I said something

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_08]: about transcoding footage

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_08]: into Final Cut and Avid

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_08]: and Premiere even though I had never

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_08]: even worked on Avid at that point

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and I just said

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_08]: something about editing and they were like

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_08]: oh she's like young

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and nice and so they asked me and I was like

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_08]: oh yeah I'm in film school and blah blah blah blah blah

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and they were like well do you want to be a PA

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_08]: on Batman tomorrow and I was like yes

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like you got a real question

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah they got me in touch

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_08]: with Luke who was our TPA

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and he basically was like hey show up here

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_08]: show up at the football

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_08]: stadium tomorrow um

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_08]: wear black I think

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't remember if I had to wear black I don't I think he just said show up

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like okay so I got there

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_08]: and I met two friends and

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_08]: anytime somebody wanted something I was like

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_08]: running across the field

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_08]: trying to do a million things

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_08]: anytime somebody called on the walkie like

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_08]: hey I need this I be like I got it

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_03]: and so um

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_08]: people kind of liked me and they were like okay come back tomorrow

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like okay and then

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_08]: after that my name was just on the call sheet

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_08]: and that was cool I was like this is fun

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and exciting I still have these call sheets

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_08]: not that I was ever going to be in AD

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_08]: but I was like I'll keep them

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and we shut down a really major street

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_08]: in Pittsburgh that

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Pittsburgh people were not

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_08]: like Yinsers were not ready for that

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and didn't like that

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and um cause Pittsburgh is just not

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_08]: one of those cities that's used

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_08]: to film production and all the shutdowns

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and everything like that so they weren't

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_08]: prepared or the individual people weren't

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_08]: prepared for it. The movie bought up almost

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_08]: every store on the street

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_08]: there was just a couple of holdouts

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_08]: one was Staples or Office Max

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_08]: one of those and

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I think cause it's a big corporation

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and the other was the Canadian fur trade

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_08]: company which was a couple

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_08]: doors down on the same side of the street

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_08]: so and they put me

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_08]: in the Staples and

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_08]: or like the office supply store whatever it was

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was great because it was

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_08]: right on the street you could see

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_08]: the um what were those

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_08]: things called I don't think they were called tumblers

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_08]: but whatever like the

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah the tumbler the Batmobile

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah okay the tumblers okay that is

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_08]: what they were called so

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_08]: it was like the street where like the tumblers

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_08]: were going down so like you could see

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_08]: out and it was kind of cool and

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I just basically had to hold

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_08]: people and be like hey it's just gonna be a couple minutes

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_08]: so that this can go by because there's a very narrow

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_08]: field of vision

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_08]: for the stunt drivers and so what I was

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_08]: telling people is like listen it's a very narrow

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_08]: field of vision for them we don't want them to see

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_08]: anything in the peripheral that could

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_08]: startle or shop or mess them up

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_08]: in any way because then somebody didn't

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_08]: even get hurt um so

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_08]: on this day

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_08]: oh man and like all my friends from

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_08]: film school who I'm still mostly friends with

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like they were all there

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and so

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_08]: but then guy

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_08]: from the Canadian fur trade company came

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_08]: in and he was clearly like

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_08]: not having it not about this

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like movie set life it was

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_08]: probably he probably

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_08]: if it wasn't his business he probably wished

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_08]: his boss had uh

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_08]: let them get bought out because I'm sure they didn't get much

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_08]: business that day so

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_08]: he comes in the staples

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and then when he wants to go out I have

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_08]: to hold him and he's not happy about it and

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_08]: um and of course it's the

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_08]: one time that like something's wrong

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_08]: so we're holding we're just

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_08]: holding people we're not letting

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_08]: them leave and of course it's that

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_08]: one time and he's like so annoyed and

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_08]: the employees are totally on my side

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_08]: like trying to be like like they're trying

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_08]: to defend me and everything like oh it's fine

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll be a couple minutes this guy's so angry

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and so like so annoyed so pissed off

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm I do I'm

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_08]: five three and

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I swear to goodness this guy was six two

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_08]: he might not have been quite that big

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_08]: but I was intimidated

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_10]: he had six two energy yeah it was effectively

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_08]: six yeah he was like much

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_08]: taller than me and like

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_08]: and he was just huffing and puffing he was so annoyed

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and then at one point

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_08]: he was like this is ridiculous I'm just going I was like

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm really sorry I can't have you go

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_08]: it's dangerous and then like they're like

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_08]: I can hear them in the background like okay we're

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_08]: rolling and I was like they're rolling right

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_08]: now it's gonna go and then there is like two seconds

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_08]: later somebody says okay hold

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and then oh god

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_08]: from our vantage point you can see the tumblers

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and so you can see that people aren't

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_08]: like going but there's also wires all over

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_08]: the street like this is a whole gosh darn zoom set

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah and um

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_08]: then I apologize sir it's just gonna be a couple more

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_08]: minutes and he's just like no I'm going now and I was like

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_08]: no and for some dumb reason like

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_08]: again that young oh my god

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna get fired and people are gonna hate me and like

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_08]: this will ruin my career before it even starts

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_08]: mode of my brain was like

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I positioned myself between him and the door

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_08]: like this guy is getting so frustrated

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_08]: that he's like pushing me

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like physically pushing and pinning

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_08]: me against this door and I'm on the walkie

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_08]: like hey Luke can I please

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_08]: let this guy through he really wants to go um

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_08]: no hold like we'll send someone to

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_08]: you like okay but he really wants to go and he's like

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_08]: no hold they're gonna they're rolling

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_08]: now and I was like I was like uh

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Luke this guy and he's like starting

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_08]: to yell and curse at me people

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_08]: could hear me like panicking and this guy yelling

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_08]: at one point for 150

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_08]: PAs I just hold my walkie

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_08]: down and he's like

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Rubble Rubble Rubble Rubble

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Let me be rude to this

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_08]: 21 year old child over here

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm just like uh

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and then like at the end

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I hear and they're like it's and then

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_08]: they're like I hear somebody say

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_08]: okay they're going don't

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_08]: worry it'll be over in five

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: minutes and I was like

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_08]: in my mind I'm like no it won't because I

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_08]: have to come all the way back down here

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like guys I'm trying to hold him

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if I got I'm trying I'm trying

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if I got him and I can see

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_08]: from behind my like peripherals

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_08]: the tumbler goes by

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_08]: goes like comes from like my right

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_08]: side goes past my left side and I'm

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_08]: like um I'm trying to hold him

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_08]: he's going he's going and then all of a

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_08]: sudden people said that

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_08]: they could see from their vantage points

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: from the other side of the street like they could see

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: the doors moving and then all of a sudden

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_08]: because this guy was pushing me

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_08]: and so then I like moved myself

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: to stop being pushed and he

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_08]: pushed me through the door

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and I like apparently like the door

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_08]: flung open like the tumbler went by

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and then the door flew open and then

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and I like I went out

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_08]: butt first and landed on the ground

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and this guy just like left and like storm

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_08]: down the street and I like got up and was like

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_08]: look both ways and then

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_08]: we went back in and scurried inside and I was like

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_08]: oh my god I'm gonna get tired totally gonna get

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_08]: fired that's what's gonna happen now I didn't

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_08]: get fired everybody was really nice to me

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and the special effects team was really nice and somebody

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: told me that like you have the special

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_08]: effects your team because everybody knew

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_08]: because I held down my walkie

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_08]: because I didn't know what to do

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and so everybody knew this happened

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like oh my god my friends

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_08]: are here and like people are gonna

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like I'm never gonna work again

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and um like

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_08]: everybody came like everybody on set

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_08]: who knew who I was was checking on me

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_08]: which is great and then the next

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_08]: day Luke who is our

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_08]: TPA he like the next day our TPA

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_08]: goes alright Dana it's

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Sunday I'm gonna give you an easy one

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna put you in the church

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like cool sounds good

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Did anybody else picture the guy

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: from the Canadian

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: fur trade company to be wearing like

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: a fox around his neck

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_10]: 100% with

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_10]: like the French Canadian accent

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah leather pants

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah that's who I was

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_04]: picturing and I was like this is terrifying

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_08]: if I remember

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_08]: correctly he had like a

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_08]: jacket and slacks on not

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_08]: not quite per related

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_08]: because it was summer too so it was

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_08]: hot like not

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_08]: even though it was fake snow everywhere it was

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_10]: summertime I also thought you're gonna say

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_10]: and that was the take they use and if you

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_10]: look real closely behind the Batmobile

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_10]: you can see

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_08]: oh that actually wasn't the Batmobile

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like at some point later that day

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_08]: to they did do the Batmobile

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_08]: and I remember it like because the

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Batmobile was like a suspended type of

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_08]: thing it was like in the air

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_08]: like a car would drive there was a big

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of crane thing that held the

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Batmobile one point they hit a

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_08]: light and it was right in front of

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_08]: us and it like crashed and

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_08]: everything and I turned

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_08]: to the staples employees and I was like

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_08]: this is why I needed you to stay inside

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: now can you just

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: like are you allowed to just tell people

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: like give Batman

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: five minutes yeah exactly

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_11]: Batman is fighting outside

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_11]: give him yeah like are you able to just

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: say that or do you have like some kind of

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: NDA where you're like oh it's a movie don't

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: worry about it like oh everybody knew

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_08]: it was Batman

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I wish I had said that like come on guys

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Batman saving the city give him

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_08]: two seconds yeah

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I should have tried that next time

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_08]: next time

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_10]: well let's jump into Michelle's question

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_10]: because I think she also brings up another one of

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_10]: Dana's credit yeah here we go

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey open pike night so I'm going to start

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: off with my crusher connection this week

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: because I feel like editing

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: can be

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: slightly akin to surgery

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and just like dr. crusher is

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: very good with her cuts

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that she makes to her patients

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and closing them up

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and making sure everything turns out great at the end

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I am sure that

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: your guest this week

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: is also very skilled

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and adept in

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: her precise cuts and making

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: sure that we get great content so

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: welcome Dana and

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: you know I know

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you do strange new worlds editing

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: as well as editing for the walking dead

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: so I'm a big fan of

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: that as well and my question

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: ties into that

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering if there's a difference

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: in editing for

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: a cable show versus a streaming

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: show so

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: something like amc or a network

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: show which may have a bit more

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: of a precise run time

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that you have to meet versus editing

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: for a streaming service like paramount

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: plus that might have a little bit more wiggle room

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the ins and outs

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe I'm off base but

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there might be more stressors

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: one way or the other

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: of course I'm interested in everything

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: in terms of how you work with creatives

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: how you make those

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: very hard cuts

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and just thank you because

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: editing is so important it keeps the pace

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: moving I did some

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: video editing in college and

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: it is a skill so

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: thank you for all that you do and thank you for coming on

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: the pod live long and prosper

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_08]: oh that is so sweet

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_08]: thank you Michelle

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean the first thing I'll say

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I wasn't an editor on walking dead

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I was an assistant editor on one episode

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_08]: for my friend Tiffany when we both kind

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_08]: of moved up to editing at the same time

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and I had moved up on the

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_08]: path and she moved up

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_08]: on the walking dead and so

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_08]: she needed an assistant for like a month

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and I filled in between jobs

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_08]: because it was right when I had become

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_08]: an editor and sometimes at the beginning

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_08]: of your

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_08]: editorial career

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_08]: you might have to do both

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_08]: things just to keep your health care hours

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and so that's what I was doing

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I still think of myself

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_08]: in my early part of my career

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and I partially feel that way because

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_08]: of the pandemic

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and the strike shutdowns

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_08]: because to me I feel like although I've been

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_08]: editing full time since 2017

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I also sometimes

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_08]: feel like I lost two years

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_08]: of my career

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_08]: so even though

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_08]: the math is what like six years there

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes I still feel like

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm only on my fourth or fifth

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_08]: year

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_08]: so I may not

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_08]: be the most in-depth person

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_08]: but from my experience assisting

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and just being in the industry

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_08]: as an assistant editor

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_08]: and an editor

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I can say with

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I like streaming because

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_08]: we are a little less

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_08]: limited with

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_08]: run times one of the biggest difference

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_08]: if you have something on cable or broadcast is

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_08]: your

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_08]: not a slave to your total run time but like

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_08]: you're totally a slave to your run time

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_08]: it has to be

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_08]: a certain length

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_08]: it can't be that much longer

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and it can't be that much shorter because

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_08]: they've programmed in

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_08]: commercial breaks

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and with streaming

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_08]: we have a much bigger variance

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_08]: at least on the streaming shows I've worked on

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_08]: we've had usually like

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_08]: 10 minute variances

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's why sometimes you'll see some of our episodes

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_08]: are 40

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_08]: 8 minutes and sometimes

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_08]: our episodes are maybe a little bit more than 60

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_08]: versus

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_08]: you're never going to get

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_08]: a 60 plus minute

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_08]: episode on broadcast

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_08]: or cable because they can't do

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_08]: that

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_08]: as far as like precise cutting

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I completely agree

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_08]: it's all me I'm wonderful

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_08]: totally kidding

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not all me

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I take my job very seriously

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_08]: and I really care about what I do

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and I always

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_08]: have a reason behind

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_08]: every edit

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I always know why I'm doing something

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_08]: even if the something is because

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry and Akiva said so

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm like okay fine they would

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just kidding

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not the only one making those decisions

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_08]: you know and even down to the fact that

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_08]: like you know we have like an amazing

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_08]: costume

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_08]: and hair and makeup and our DP is amazing

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and there's so many people

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_08]: that make what you're seeing

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_08]: great that I don't want to take

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_08]: all the credit there

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_08]: we work with our directors, we work with the showrunners

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_08]: we work with like Secret Hideout

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and the studio and the network and so people have notes

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and some of the decisions kind of get made

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_08]: for you sometimes

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like oh that's my favorite part

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I really don't want to cut this beat

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'll do everything I possibly can to save it

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and try to answer the note

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_08]: in whatever creative way I can

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_08]: just to save that moment but sometimes

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't get to save that moment

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_08]: but I do like that analogy

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_08]: towards surgery because

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_08]: most of the time it is pretty precise

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_08]: it is it's very intentional

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I know why

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm doing something and I'm not

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_08]: just cutting because they shot

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_08]: that shot

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_08]: like sometimes we don't

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes some of the coolest stuff they shoot

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_08]: we don't use and it feels so bad

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_08]: because you know they spent like 12 takes on that

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's like ooh sorry guys

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_11]: like how do you

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_11]: personally prepare for an edit with

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_11]: regard to getting all your files and pieces organized

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_11]: like in a way that makes sense to you

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_11]: do you have

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_11]: like a routine you do at the beginning

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_11]: at the beginning of an edit

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_08]: oh yes I'm so OCD

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_08]: four assistant editors that have had to work with me

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_08]: they've all been wonderful

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean I started off

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I started off an episode reading the script

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_08]: like anybody else does

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and Lori always taught me to do

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_08]: an editor's breakdown and so I started

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_08]: off an episode reading the script and doing my own

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_08]: personal editor's breakdown

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll make a list for myself of scenes that I

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_08]: think are going to be a little

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_08]: harder to do and things that I

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_08]: want to pay a little more attention to

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_08]: or just so that I know

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_08]: what's coming I'll also

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes like gather some

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_08]: sound effects that I think are going to be

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_08]: very helpful like they're just temp

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_08]: obviously because we have an amazing

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_08]: sound team an amazing visual

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_08]: effects team so some of those temp

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_08]: things I do you know

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_08]: they don't they don't matter in like the

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_08]: long long run but they matter for

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_08]: giving people a vision of the

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_08]: of the story

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was moving up

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_08]: to editor I had made

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_08]: a like step by step guide

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_08]: of like how to be Peter

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Forslens assistant and

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_08]: then I took that and I made

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_08]: one for like how to be my assistant because

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_08]: at the time it was basically the same thing

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and now it's a little different but

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_08]: you know the way I like to have

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_08]: my dailies all in front of me

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I like to have

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_08]: basically like we usually shoot

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_08]: more than one camera at once

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_08]: so like I'll have my group clips all lined

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_08]: up and I'll have

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_08]: single camera clips on top of it so I

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_08]: can see what angles they are

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and for strange new world

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_08]: specifically I have a like a color

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_08]: coding system of how I track

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_08]: on screen lines like

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_08]: pike is yellow and Una is yellow

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_08]: unless she's also with pike

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and like if pike and Una are in a scene

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Una is white unless chapel's in the

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_08]: scene and it's like very white for me

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: this is brilliant

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like it makes

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_08]: no sense and like ortega

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_08]: is always green nobody else is allowed

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_08]: to be green I don't know why

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I think this green is my favorite color

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_08]: so I'm like that's my

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_08]: ortega's color I'll mark

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_08]: all the lines and stuff like that but

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_08]: like most of the time when I'm looking at a

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_08]: scene I mark my

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_08]: my dialogue so I can

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_08]: reference back to it quickly

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and I also do that for when I'm working

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_08]: with other people so I can get to things

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_08]: more quickly and we can be as efficient

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_08]: as possible because especially like with

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_08]: strange new worlds we've only ever been

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_08]: remote so and I was very

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_08]: nervous about that at the beginning

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_08]: so we do have an amazing

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_08]: script supervisor and I

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_08]: love her so much and I'm so grateful for her

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and I will use her

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_08]: notes but I usually look at

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_08]: the script supervisor's notes of like what

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_08]: the director said I usually look at that stuff

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_08]: after I put something together

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_08]: myself and

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_08]: something I'll do if I have

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_08]: time is some a lot of times if I think

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_08]: a scene can go more than one way

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll cut it more than one way

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_08]: especially if it looks like

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_08]: the director's trying to do something specific

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_08]: but I might

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_08]: have more knowledge than they

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_08]: do later on in the season

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_08]: that I might want to have

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_08]: something in the background like

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_08]: as a backup ready let's get

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_10]: some examples of that

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah that's really cool

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_10]: do you have any examples of like foreshadowing

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_10]: you're building foreshadowing

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a great question

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_08]: because it's kind of hard

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_08]: in strange new world specifically

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_08]: because we're relatively

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_08]: episodic we don't

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_08]: always have a lot of things to foreshadow

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_10]: surprisingly a lot comes in

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_10]: a lot comes across

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't think of anything

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_08]: off the top of my head but I know that sometimes

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_08]: when I've had

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_08]: dinner scenes and what not

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and dinner scenes

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I know in at Astra Persevera

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_08]: for sure I did

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_08]: there was a couple of times when I was working

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_08]: with Valerie

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_08]: who's our director and she's awesome

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_08]: she shot all these amazing reaction shots

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_08]: of everybody

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_08]: ironically though

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_08]: we shot them like in our pickup section

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_08]: later in the

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_08]: scene so when we first shot it

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_08]: we had storyboards in there

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_08]: to be like okay I think I'm gonna go to Pike at this point

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I think I'm gonna go you know blah blah

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but when

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Luna's saying certain things like who you're on

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_08]: for their reaction is usually like

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_08]: very to me it was like very

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_08]: intentional like when she's talking about being

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_08]: a freak or a monster

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm either putting most of the time

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I was either putting Lawn or Spock

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_08]: on there because they're so used to

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_08]: being outcasts so it's like okay let's

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_08]: show them

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_08]: being outcast and that's kind of the reverse

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_08]: is like knowing the history of characters

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_08]: and putting them on screen intentionally

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_08]: for that and

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_08]: at Astra Persevera is actually it's like

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_08]: that's actually one where that's the

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_08]: best example of like especially when

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Luna is giving her speech

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and she's saying everything every time you're

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_08]: on somebody it's

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like super intentional

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and for me I try to build those moments

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_08]: knowing who the characters are

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_08]: where they might grow

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_08]: to be. Honestly

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: like having literally just watched that

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: episode last night that

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: 100% comes through because

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: like you said there's something about

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_02]: being a freak or different and it goes

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_02]: to Lawn and then there she says

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: something about all the lives that Luna saved

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and Luna starts talking about those lives

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and it goes to Mbenga

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's one

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: shot where the

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: reaction that we get is Uhura

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: checking somebody else's

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_03]: reaction. Yeah, checking Lawn's reaction.

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Watching it

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: holy crap like that is

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: so well placed and subtle

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: because it puts you in Uhura's

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: body for a moment

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like I just yes

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_02]: what is she and why would she care

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: oh it's because that's her mentor

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like it's so

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_02]: good Dana so good.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_08]: but again it's the type of thing where

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_08]: you know our

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_08]: our DP and our camera operators

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and ACs like they all

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_08]: they captured that moment and it was great and

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_08]: our actors are phenomenal

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_08]: there's they are all

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_08]: amazing and so

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_08]: they are doing these things intentionally

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_08]: too and like they're obviously

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_08]: not watching that live

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_08]: in real world but

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I know exactly what moment you're talking

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_08]: about because I remember

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_08]: building it out once we got once I got that

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_08]: footage and then showing it to Valerie and Valerie

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_08]: really liking it I was like hey

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I made Valerie happy

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah your job is like

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: sit down in front of a

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_02]: treasure chest and open it up and bask

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_02]: in the gleam of the golden coins like

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_02]: it's yeah like I'm

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_10]: legitimately full on jealous so

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_10]: I mean you are the first person who gets to watch these episodes

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_10]: many other fans

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_10]: are very envious of that

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah that's amazing

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's cool too because it's like sometimes I'm seeing stuff that

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_08]: you know

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_08]: is never gonna be like

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_08]: at astro prospere it was

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of too long at one point

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and we sort of had multiple endings and we

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_08]: ended up combining them in kind of like a

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_08]: really interesting creative way that

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_08]: like I almost can't

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_08]: explain without showing it

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_08]: shot by shot um

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_08]: it was basically like the conclusion

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_08]: like the final

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_08]: like closing argument

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_08]: we did like we tried really

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_08]: interesting things there like we tried one

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_08]: version where it was like so short

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was like straight to the point and it

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_08]: was over and you're like that's not

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_08]: enough but then we

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_08]: let it breathe again and we

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_08]: put more footage back in and it

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_08]: we found that happy medium and

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_08]: it was just like that was really that was really satisfying

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_11]: had you don't know my

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_11]: jump in the head but had you read the

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_11]: those old scientist script

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_11]: well before you edited

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_11]: that astro no I hadn't

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think it was a bit I don't

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_08]: remember if it was if that was available

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to us yet because that's episode seven yeah

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and when we're shooting to

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_08]: we usually

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I think have at least through

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_08]: four if not five

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I hadn't watched the crossover before

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_08]: during that episode so

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_08]: okay yeah deal sorry

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_11]: no no I was just curious

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_11]: with the connection between those two episodes

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_11]: I wasn't sure if that was that

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_11]: played it at all with the the fore

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_11]: shadowing so

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_08]: no but then you know

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_08]: what probably actually did

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_08]: end up happening there though was that

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_08]: um was the fact

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_08]: that like Henry and Akiva know what

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_08]: they're doing and so some

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_08]: of the notes they gave me probably

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_08]: reflected that and I didn't even know

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_08]: that's what I was doing and I might still be making

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_08]: an intentional an intentional

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_08]: change but it's Akiva

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and Henry's change and like it's actually

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: their credit even though I pushed the buttons

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_08]: you know um

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm picturing a note it's like you need to put back

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_11]: in the line at astro praspera you

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_11]: can't cut that oh fine

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_11]: no that wasn't anything I was like

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_11]: okay

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_11]: all right I'm gonna play the next two collars

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_11]: back to back they overlap pretty

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_11]: well but uh two of our

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_11]: two of our main collars and fans

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_11]: and uh here first up is

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark hello open pike night

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: this is engineer Mark

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and welcome to editor Dana Gasperin

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_01]: my question is

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: on how the relationship

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: works between editing

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and the other part of the show

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: you know actors directors

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: writers anyone else

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: who has an input into the process

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and also what your input is back

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: towards them as well

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: um that would be very interesting to

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: hear about thank you very much

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: live long and prosper

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and here is

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_07]: oh open pike night

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_07]: this is the Joe Richardson captain

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_07]: of the uss cinema and host of

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_07]: backlic cinema the podcast

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_07]: so I'd like to welcome Dana Gasperin

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_07]: did I say that right

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_07]: is it gasperine

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_07]: gasperinny I am so sorry

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I should have did some research on how

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_07]: your name is properly pronounced

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_07]: and I did not anyway

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_07]: um my question is

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_07]: well actually

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_07]: this is a little embarrassing

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_07]: but I have no idea what

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_07]: uh TV and film

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_07]: editor actually does

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean I imagine that you're

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_07]: in cahoots with the director the writers

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_07]: the showrunner and

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_07]: y'all all are trying to hash out like the

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_07]: best story that you possibly can

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_07]: and I imagine that there are things

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_07]: in the editing room that you

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean some things that you might have

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_07]: to cut out you know like you might have some

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_07]: disagreement on how the story

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_07]: is going or the pace of the show

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_07]: and what have you so when there are

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_07]: these disagreements

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_07]: who's who usually wins out

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean is it in the editing

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_07]: bay is it the editor overall

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_07]: or is it like a fight

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_07]: to the death hold on

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_06]: ensign what are you doing

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_06]: what are you doing

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah it's supposed to be asymmetrical

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_06]: put that down

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_10]: I was bringing us into the world

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_10]: right

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_08]: so good

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_08]: okay cool well it is gasprin

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and that's I was actually

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_08]: surprised mark said it right the first time

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_08]: because people usually say gasprin

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_08]: or gasprin or whatever and so I'll

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_08]: answer to anything actually like my

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_08]: when my grandparents came here it was gasprini

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and we changed it so

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_08]: anything is fine

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_08]: you know we're easy going um

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I guess I'll answer

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_08]: what editing is

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_08]: first just because it I feel like it lays

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_08]: that groundwork um

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_08]: editing is basically the process

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_08]: of cutting each image

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_08]: together so when you see

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_08]: a wide shot and then all of a sudden

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_08]: you're no longer in that wide shot

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_08]: you're in a close up

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and then you're on a close up of the other person

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm the person putting

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: those images next to each other

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's the simplest way to explain it

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_08]: uh and

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I get all the footage I watch all the takes

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I initially pick my

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_08]: favorite tapes and put them in

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and then I'll

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and then I layer it in with

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_08]: temp visual effects temp sound work

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_08]: temp music I show it to the director

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_08]: first and

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_08]: the director and this is specifically

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_08]: well this part is also for film

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_08]: but this is also like specifically a television

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_08]: um breakdown because

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_08]: we only have the directors usually for about

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_08]: four days and

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_08]: in television versus in film

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_08]: the director's on the whole

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_04]: time um

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_08]: and so uh

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll work with the director for four days

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_08]: they'll essentially send me their notes

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'll send me their notes

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_08]: or work with me either in person

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_08]: or nowadays virtually

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and then we'll go back and forth for a couple days

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and then we'll get the cut as close

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to what their vision is as possible

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and then we will

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_08]: pass that on to our showrunners

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_08]: in this case um Akiva and Henry

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and then Akiva and Henry will start

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_08]: giving notes and

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_08]: they'll do a pass and

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_08]: it keeps going from there you know to studio

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_08]: network etc and all that jazz

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_08]: um and

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_08]: in television as well

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_08]: we usually

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_08]: not all shows but our show specifically

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_08]: um um most shows

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_08]: will have one editor per episode

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_08]: whenever you see my name on screen

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I only worked on that footage

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_08]: occasionally you might see

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_08]: something where

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I might have edited a scene that ends up in another

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_08]: episode but that doesn't happen

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_08]: too often um that usually

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_08]: doesn't happen but I have worked on shows

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_08]: where it does so usually

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_08]: that's when the same director

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_08]: directed both episodes but sometimes

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not and that's kind of an exception

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_08]: to the role usually I specifically

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_08]: work just on my episodes

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and I have access

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to the other episodes I can watch

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_08]: them um I'll watch

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_08]: everybody else's cut so I know what's going on

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and also to see uh what

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_08]: my fellow editors Andrew and Wes who

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_08]: are so gosh darn amazing

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_08]: um they're both super talented

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and super creative and I'll

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I like to see what they're doing as well

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm still gonna make my own decisions from

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_08]: my show because

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_08]: that's my job

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_08]: but I might

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes want to see what they're doing because

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes it might

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_08]: affect my episode specifically

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_08]: so I try I think we all watch each other's

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_08]: episodes to see what's going on

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and as far as my

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_08]: decision-making power and

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_08]: towards the final cut whatever

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_08]: the first step is always editors cut

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and so I've put

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_08]: every scene together the way I think it should be

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_08]: done I've also shown you know all the footage

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't normally make

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot of major

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_08]: scene or line cuts during editors cut

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_08]: because you want people to be able to see

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_08]: everything we have to offer and then when

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_08]: we start working with the director

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_08]: we refine it a little bit and

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_08]: that's when we might start taking things out

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_08]: or playing with this, that and the other

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_08]: you know Henry and Akiva are the ones

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_08]: who stay on the show really

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_08]: the whole time they run the

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_08]: show um they're part of

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_08]: the writer's room the concepts

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_08]: the the scripts

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_08]: the notes in that phase they do all that

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_08]: and then with production they're still

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_08]: constantly being consulted and they are

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_08]: constantly in demand and then in editorial

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_08]: we try to kidnap them and not

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_08]: let them talk to other people just kidding we don't do that

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_08]: um but

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_08]: if only no

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_08]: just kidding but in editorial they'll come

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and they'll work with us specifically and they'll stay working on the show

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_08]: you know until it is

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_08]: up on the air and so like as far as

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_08]: my decision-making power is concerned

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I have the most power during my editor's cut

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_08]: but every time I work with people

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_08]: especially on this show everybody is

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_08]: very collaborative and I think we all

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_08]: have the same goal of making the most

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_08]: interesting good story

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: possible with every

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_08]: single one of my directors they've all asked

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_08]: for my input and when

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_08]: it's their cut if we have

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_08]: a disagreement they're gonna win or at least

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll let them think they won

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_08]: no it's okay

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_08]: just kidding

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I think

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry and Akiva are great at listening

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and taking into consideration

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_08]: you know our thoughts and opinions

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and I really appreciate that because

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_08]: uh

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I like being heard and I like being part of the process

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and also I'm the only one who still knows what the director

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_08]: was thinking or why they were doing

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_08]: something so I try to be a voice for

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_08]: the director throughout the process

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_08]: but like ultimately at the end

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_08]: of the day if I'm like

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_08]: fist to fist with Akiva and Henry

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_08]: they'll probably win

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_08]: or again I'll let them think they won

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_08]: no I'm just kidding

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_08]: well but with your previous PA

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_11]: experience if they ever need to lock

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_11]: a director out of the room they know you can

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_11]: hold that for a while

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I know I will barricade myself

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I will like barricade myself

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_08]: in the room

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna say

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_08]: like the studio and network also do have

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_08]: input so

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_08]: these are the people backing

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_08]: the show

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_08]: they have input

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_08]: they get to give notes as well

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll defer to Akiva and Henry because

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_08]: uh

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_08]: they're the people I work with the most

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm usually in line with them

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and sometimes we can't do a note

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_08]: that people give

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_08]: like oh

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_08]: we want a shot

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_08]: of you know

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Dana's dad but

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Dana's dad wasn't on camera in this scene

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: so we just can't do that sorry

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and he refuses to sign the release

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_08]: he would

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_10]: two process questions I just thought of while you've been talking

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_10]: uh so one

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_10]: who edits the previously on's do you do that

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_10]: or does someone else want to do that

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: oh Jesse I'm sorry

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: no no I'm happy that you asked that

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm like I need to know

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_08]: oh yeah um

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_08]: so for

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_08]: most of my episodes usually my assistant

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_08]: editor cuts them

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_08]: like my assistant season one was Trevor

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's awesome and my assistant in season two

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and season three is uh Cameron

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_08]: and he is also awesome

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_08]: we all agree

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_08]: all all cameras are

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_08]: and um

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_08]: so usually

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_08]: they usually they start working on it

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I think like and when I was

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_08]: an assistant editor I usually cut

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_08]: previously on's now I have worked on shows

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_08]: where a promo department

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_08]: does it and it's not us

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_08]: at all and like we just have no control over it

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_08]: but on strange new worlds at least

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_08]: uh my assistant usually cuts

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_08]: them and then I give some input

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_08]: on it and then they

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_08]: you know refine it and

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_08]: if at the end of the day I

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_08]: touch it a little I usually don't because

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I think my guys do a really great job

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_10]: and then how

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_10]: about deleted scenes or

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_10]: especially like outtakes is that something the editors

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_10]: are like is it your job to kind of flag

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_10]: them or does someone else come in and like

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_10]: comb through everything

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_08]: so I'm not a hundred

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_08]: percent sure how it works on strange new worlds

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_08]: because when I was an assistant it was usually

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: like an assistant editor

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_08]: responsibility that we pulled them and

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I had cut a lot of gag reels

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_08]: in my day and I love it I think they're

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_08]: so fun um I don't know if I'm

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_08]: any good at the gag reels but I think

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_08]: they're funny um so

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I think we usually we

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_08]: usually have a gag

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_08]: spin in my project

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and my assistant and I will both pull

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_08]: stuff in there just and

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I've worked on shows where

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_08]: we just again send that

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_08]: bin off to like promo department

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_08]: or somebody else um I'm just

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_08]: not sure on our show because the other thing too is

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_08]: most of editorial I

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_08]: believe is on the west coast but

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_08]: we shoot in Toronto and

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_08]: so I don't know

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_08]: if I don't know how

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_08]: how our gag reels work I know we usually

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_08]: pull it like my assistant

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and I like Cameron and I pull it and then

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_08]: hope somebody looks at it if not

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_08]: just us and then deleted scenes

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_08]: deleted scenes are things that

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_08]: we have deleted

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_08]: seen I'll tell you that in a second sorry um

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_08]: deleted scenes are something that was

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_08]: in the episode that I

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_08]: as an editor or Andrew west

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_08]: um we've cut it

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_08]: and then um it's gotten taken out

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_08]: so that's like we

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_08]: usually if we lose a whole scene

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_08]: we will you know sub it out and put that

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_08]: that I believe is just

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_08]: in an extra bin that gets sent to like

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_08]: promo or marketing or whoever

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_08]: makes the DVDs but I am in one

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_08]: of west's episodes 106

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and um in the deleted scene

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just a I'm just a voice

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a temp voice because that scene

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_08]: ended up being a deleted scene

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but we don't record most

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_08]: of the like opening voiceovers

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_08]: until the post

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_08]: sound work like in ADR

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_08]: so we

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_08]: usually record for each other

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like Wes and Matt will be like hey

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Dana can you do these lines and I will be like yes

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_08]: please because I don't know why but I

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_08]: love doing temp ADR and because

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_08]: they have a deleted scene that never

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_08]: made it in we never recorded

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_08]: the actress so it's just like

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_08]: my temp voice and it says temp

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_08]: ADR on it and I was like

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_03]: but that's awesome

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_08]: a thing that kills me that

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_08]: speaking of ADR and it kills

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_08]: me because in episode 109

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I originally

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_08]: did temp ADR for our

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_08]: captains like log opening

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and because

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_08]: we're working in post and because it was

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_08]: season one and I would have done anything to make Henry and Akiva like me

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_08]: um like

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_08]: they sometimes

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_08]: would be like hey can you do this line again

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_08]: but like better

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know they had better direction than

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_08]: that um but like maybe like

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_08]: setter or whatever we've talked to Akiva

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_10]: that sounds like what he'd tell you yeah

[00:52:37] yeah

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Akiva gives great notes I mean so does Henry

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_08]: they're they know what they want which is

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_08]: something I really love and respect about

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_11]: them that's part

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_11]: of being a good director yeah

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah but like I had recorded it

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_08]: a couple like some of the lines a couple

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_08]: of times and so and I think they also

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_08]: just got used to it and at one point

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_08]: our post producer asked me

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like hey you know

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_08]: are you like are you in SAG because we

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_08]: would we would just keep your voice

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_08]: right now and I was like

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_08]: no I won't but I wouldn't do

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_08]: anything and there is

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_08]: actually a role that like I could have done it

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_08]: just that one time but I didn't

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: know until after and

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like ah I asked my friend

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_08]: who's an ADR director and I was like

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_08]: oh gosh why didn't I talk to Ashley Sutter

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and so

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah I almost could

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_08]: have been in an episode and it would have been

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_08]: 109 which is like

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_08]: this is when can I say

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_08]: is it still a spoiler if it's been out between you

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_11]: anybody listening to this has watched it

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_08]: so yeah okay well it's when we lose

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Hammer so like to be part of that

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_08]: that episode I thought was great too so

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_10]: what would you have been

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_08]: there's like a captain's log where it's like

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_08]: don't come here

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_10]: oh that one

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_10]: the crash ship yeah

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_10]: that was amazing

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and so

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm crestfallen

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: on your behalf but I do have a question

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: on kind of the same lines there

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: you also mentioned having

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: temp music do you

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: have a go to

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_02]: like temp track that you're like

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I know they're not going to keep this but I love editing

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_02]: to it so this is what I'm putting here

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_08]: um not necessarily

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I know some people do but

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean in season 2 I would

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_08]: use a lot of our season 1

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_08]: score because it's

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_08]: it fits so well

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_08]: um and before that I would use

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot of discovery stuff and you know

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_08]: man of steel and Batman

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and other things that

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of are just

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_08]: you know other things that wish they were

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_08]: as epic as our show is

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_08]: you know agree so

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_08]: so stuff like that um I don't

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_08]: man it's

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and I feel that because I wonder if I would

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_08]: feel differently if I was in the middle of the season

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_08]: like oh because that does happen

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes I fall in love with the soundtrack

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and then I just use it all the time

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like I used to use ex machina all the time

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_08]: on path because

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_08]: that it just like fit

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_08]: for that show um

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_08]: in a way that it doesn't necessarily

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_08]: fit for a strange new world sometimes

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_08]: it does but also all of our episodes are so

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_08]: different that or at least

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_08]: usually are so different that

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_08]: it doesn't always make sense

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_08]: to do the thing like to have a go to

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_08]: on this particular show

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_12]: did you have a relationship with

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Star Trek before you got hired

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_12]: on strange new worlds

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_08]: uh kind of

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel bad because

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_08]: like I'm not necessarily like the most

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_08]: die hard tricky but

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_08]: um one

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_08]: of my best friends from growing up is

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like hardcore William Shatner fan

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_08]: she loves him and um

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_08]: so I have I have seen

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_08]: she loves William Shatner specifically

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_08]: just to be you know

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Janelle will kill me if I'm like oh she's a Star Trek

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_08]: fan she's a William Shatner fan

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and but because of that I watched a lot

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_08]: of original series episodes

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I think either with her or because I wanted

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_08]: to be her friend and I was like okay

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_08]: but I would say next

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_08]: generation is what I saw the most

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_08]: of growing up and I

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not going to pretend like I saw

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_08]: every single episode of the entire series

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I think at this point I might have

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_08]: um because that's another thing we'll do

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes in a tone meeting is we might

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_08]: reference hey we're doing

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_08]: something from this original

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_08]: series episode or something

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_08]: like at Astra Per Spira like

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_08]: uh when Picard

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_08]: is on trial you know it's it's

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_08]: there's similarities there which I

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I use soundtrack from

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_08]: that episode as a temp

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_08]: um sometimes

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_08]: because it was like so spot on

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_08]: um but

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_08]: next generation and

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Picard was definitely my original

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_08]: like introduction to

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Star Trek and I've seen Deep

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Space Nine as well

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and I I just always liked it

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_08]: like I like Star Trek I will if it's

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_08]: on I will watch it and growing up we

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_08]: didn't have like I didn't have cable because

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_08]: my parents were

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_08]: frugal so

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_08]: um but next

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_08]: generation

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_08]: next generation and anytime it was on

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I was watching it

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_08]: you know unless

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_08]: unless I wasn't I don't know that's bad

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_08]: it didn't make sense

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_10]: you like it but not enough to have a podcast about

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_10]: it yeah yeah

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_08]: way before podcasts were a thing too

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: you know she's arguably spent way

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: more time with Star Trek than we have now

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: probably I mean

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_10]: you're probably right like the editors

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_10]: probably know the source material better than

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_10]: anyone because they've listened to those lines

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_10]: repeatedly like I remember

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_10]: listening to them say the Klingons don't have

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_10]: hair

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: cause part of your job is to

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: make sure that the pictures go in the

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: right order like that's

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_02]: that's brilliant yeah

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_10]: we're gonna kind of dive a little deeper into

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_10]: Star Trek

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_10]: despite your mediocre

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_10]: relationship with it but yeah

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_10]: let's start with a little word association game

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_10]: so we're just gonna read the episodes you edited

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_10]: and we wanna know the first word

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_10]: phrase the first thing that pops in your head when we

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_10]: say for example

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_10]: children of the comet

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_08]: blue singing

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_08]: a whore is amazing

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know she has a beautiful voice

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_08]: all accurate

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_10]: how about ghost of alleria

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_08]: well pandemic

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_08]: pandemic

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_08]: yellow

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like a very color oriented person

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_02]: no

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and it calls to mind the episode

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like the entire

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_02]: atmosphere on yeah I don't remember

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_02]: the name of that planet is very yellow

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_08]: we shot out of order season one

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_08]: so um

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_08]: that was actually my first episode and

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_08]: children of the comet was the second episode I cut

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_08]: that season

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_10]: oh okay interesting

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_10]: how about the Elysian kingdom

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_08]: it's my favorite

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's a bittersweet episode for me

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that episode though

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_08]: that's my favorite

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_10]: at astro prospera

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I was gonna say like

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_08]: freedom and niceness and

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_08]: like also yellow

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and storyboards

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_08]: storyboards

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_10]: charades

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_08]: silly

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_08]: silly

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_08]: pike

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_10]: okay yeah

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_10]: the shot of pike

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_10]: with the tray of hors d'oeuvres just suddenly turning

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_10]: with the wide eyes I mean that's probably the best edit

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_10]: in all of star trek history right

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_10]: as the editor can you

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if that's true but I know

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_08]: it is something that like

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_08]: we spent a lot of time on

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot of time on

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_08]: so much of it

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_08]: that was like one of those ones where like I kept trying to make it work but then

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_08]: not knowing if the rewatchability

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_08]: was still funny

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_08]: because like sometimes you see it once and you're like

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_08]: that's not enough

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_08]: oh it is

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like sitcom level

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_02]: comfort episode for me

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: like it's like you know what's gonna happen

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but there's enough like

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: uh uncomfortable tension

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in it and just those moments

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: where if it were 1993

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_02]: there would be a laugh track right there

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: right but like it's just

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: done visually and

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: so so good

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_10]: but I'm glad to hear a lot of thought was put into that moment

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah and on the flip side I think one of the funniest

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_11]: holds in star trek history

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_11]: when they're in the uh transporter

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_11]: bay and pike goes to walk out the door

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_11]: and the door just doesn't open for him

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_11]: and he's just like what's going on

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_11]: like the fact that you chose

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_11]: to hold on that

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_11]: okay now we know what we're in for

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_11]: this is this is

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: was that a legit like

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: the doors were supposed to open

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: or did you guys was that in the script

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: like pike tries to leave and it doesn't work

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_08]: um I don't

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_08]: think it was in the script but it was a directorial

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_04]: trip okay

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_08]: that was a beat uh Jordan

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_08]: had made and

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_08]: at least I they shot it

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_08]: intentionally and it was like

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_08]: uh what is happening and

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_11]: we gotta get Jordan back

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah yeah yeah

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_08]: she's so good I loved all my dirt

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I have I've had nothing but great

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_08]: directors so I've loved everybody

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_10]: and then how about

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_10]: under the cloak of war

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_08]: first spot war violence

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_08]: uh AR wall

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_08]: lots of AR wall

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_08]: explosions

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_08]: montages that's an episode that we

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_08]: like kind of had to

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_08]: we made it a lot shorter than

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_08]: like there was a lot to it

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: too so

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_08]: can I do a lesion kingdom again

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_08]: because I felt weird about being like

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know I just felt like I was being silly

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_08]: or something I don't know now go for it

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_10]: you can talk about a lesion kingdom as much as you want

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah yes

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that's Cameron's favorite and yeah I think

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: under the cloak of war might be my favorite

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I picked it as my favorite

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: at the end of last season so

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_08]: well a lesion kingdom

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I think is like favorite

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and 11 page

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_08]: speech scene

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_08]: beautiful and fantasy and it was

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_08]: like that was my favorite episode

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_08]: that was like it was a

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_08]: very bittersweet time in my life

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_08]: like when I was cutting it but

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_08]: it was like an episode that

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_08]: when it came together

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_08]: it came together and it was one

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_08]: that Amanda and I had who was our director for that one

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_08]: um we were so

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_08]: in sync like we had such

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_08]: we had such the same vision

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_08]: for the episode so it like felt really

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_08]: cool and we I mean I had

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_08]: at least I hope that's how she felt but like

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I had a really good

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I it's my favorite episode of television

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_10]: I've ever cut oh it's a very

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_10]: bittersweet episode do you think like

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_10]: was there some feeding back and forth that

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_10]: in that regard reasons

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_08]: why I'm probably undyingly

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_08]: loyal to this show and to

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_08]: uh you know

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and Henry and April

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_08]: who we lost after

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_08]: the show as well um she was our

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_08]: post producer season one and she's amazing

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_08]: um such a badass

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_08]: uh but

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was working

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_08]: on uh

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_08]: oh shoot what is 103

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: called the pandemic episode

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's called the pandemic

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: episode yes the one with the pandemic

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_08]: it was just it was the funniest

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_08]: thing to be cutting

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: right as we were coming out of

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean we weren't out of the pandemic it was still

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_08]: 2021 and it was just like oh

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_08]: this is my first job

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_08]: back cool

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_08]: while I was cutting that episode

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was in directors cut my mom

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_08]: got diagnosed with stomach cancer

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was like

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_08]: really serious and really scary

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and um blew home that weekend

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_08]: that I found out and

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_08]: uh Leslie was our director

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_08]: on that episode and uh she was

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_08]: very understanding on like my last day because I was

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of like oh I have two flights I could take I could

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_08]: take this you know

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_08]: nine or ten p.m. flight but I also

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_08]: have a backup flight at midnight you know

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_08]: if we're not done and she's like go home

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like thanks bye um

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_08]: but uh my mom got diagnosed

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was cutting episode

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_08]: you know 103 ghostful area

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was my first episode of the season

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_08]: so I just started the job

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I went home I saw my mom

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and then I was like flying back on the plane

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_08]: in a middle seat crying silently

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_08]: um I paid for the wi-fi

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and like was talking to my friend Sarah who was like

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_08]: you just need to

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_08]: ask them if you can you're already

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_08]: working from home you just need to you know

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_08]: she gave me the line because she helps me

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_08]: write my email sometimes

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_08]: she is like you know you just got to tell them

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_08]: like hey I understand if the answer is no

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_08]: but can I work

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_08]: from home like can I work from New Jersey

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and I sent that email

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and April like I'm still on the plane

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and April was like yep

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Ruben can we get this done and I was like

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was like the best $14

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I ever spent was on that

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_08]: wi-fi um

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and I think it was like a week or two later

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I was in New Jersey for the rest of the season

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and then so when episode when

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_08]: um the Elysian Kingdom came

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_08]: first off that is what

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to like cut forever

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_08]: is I love like action based

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_08]: period pieces and

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_08]: things with fun like big costumes

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_08]: and set deck and stuff it's why I love

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_08]: sci-fi as well um

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_08]: but I love fantasy and I

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_08]: loved that episode I think

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_08]: uh Onitra did a beautiful job editing it

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_08]: um I love the

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Elysian Kingdom after her daughter

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like it's beautiful

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_08]: um but it's a crazy

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_08]: it was like a crazy experience for me because

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_08]: it was one of the times when my mom was

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_08]: not doing well and I was working it was my last

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_08]: episode of the season my mom was very sick

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_08]: and we took her to the hospital and

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_08]: um everybody was

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_08]: extremely understanding

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_08]: like of my situation everybody

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_08]: gave me all the grace I needed

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I tried not to take advantage of it I hope

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't take advantage of it um

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean they brought me back though I guess they were okay with it

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_08]: but it was like when one of the times that my mom

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_08]: was doing the worst and I had we had

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_08]: like one of our worst experiences

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_08]: uh she had to get this like

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_08]: NG2 thing and it's

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: literally traumatic and

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_08]: it was traumatic for her it was traumatic for me

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_08]: it was terrible it was like so bad

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_08]: but I ended up I was like at one point

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I was something like

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_08]: six days behind in Dailies

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I was so far behind in this episode

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was so stressed out about it

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and I didn't but I

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and the thing that sucked was like I wanted to cut

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_08]: it but like I was in such a

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_08]: like weird bad place

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_08]: because like my mom wasn't doing well

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was on the east coast so basically

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: 9 a.m.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Eastern to 8 p.m. eastern

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_08]: that was like the visiting hours but 8 p.m.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_08]: is like 5 p.m. and so from 5 p.m.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_08]: to like midnight I would

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_08]: like be working and working and

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes I would try to stay up later

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and blah blah blah it was crazy

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but it was one of those things where like

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I eventually did catch up and like and I

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_08]: loved that episode but

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was cutting um the very

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_08]: final scene between like like

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Mabanga Tank by the way's daughter

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_08]: it was really hard because I was

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_08]: like it was probably the first time that I

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_08]: realized like oh I might be

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I might be saying goodbye soon

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and so like there's

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_08]: like there's a lot of emotion in that for me

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_08]: it's still my favorite episode that I've

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_08]: ever cut and I still love it but I actually

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_08]: have never watched it

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_08]: since it's been released yet

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_08]: so yeah that was that

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_08]: that was that scene and I was I loved that

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that episode though and I think everybody

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_08]: in it is just so good and like

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Pike's hair is the best part

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_08]: people who hate on his hair but you know what

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_10]: that's why we did it

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_10]: that's the best part

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_10]: no it's someone who

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_10]: cried during that scene I can say it's the way

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_10]: you cut it and the performance and the

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_10]: writing but I think

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_10]: now I might cry a little bit more now after that

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_10]: story too and when I rewatch

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_10]: no in a good way

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: thank you for sharing that's what we love about it

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: is because you're having so much fun

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: with the Elysian Kingdom and then it's like

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: but you know sometimes life

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: can be this way

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and you're like oh no

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_10]: and it's always refreshing to hear

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_10]: that the people behind strange new worlds

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_10]: embody the values of strange new worlds too

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_10]: seriously

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_10]: thank you

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_08]: oh yeah these guys I mean everybody

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_08]: is amazing I can't

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_08]: like thank them enough

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: so you said you were six days behind

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: on this episode at some point

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I did

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of leads me to ask how much time do you

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I should say you're not but

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: no no like

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: how much time do they give you to edit an episode

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_02]: generally like what kind of lead

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: time do you have

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_08]: well you know we are

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_08]: we get dailies the day after

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_08]: um the day after they shoot so like

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_08]: while they're shooting day two we're

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_08]: editing day one and then we get

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_08]: you know a few days after

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_08]: the last day of dailies and so I know

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_08]: specifically that

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_08]: like the way I caught up

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_08]: um A I believe

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_08]: April well everybody knew I always

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_08]: give people heads up like hey what's going on so I believe

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: April gave me like one or two extra

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_08]: edit editors cut days

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_08]: um which was like

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and of course

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_08]: because season one we

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_08]: were sharing our AR wall with Discovery

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_08]: so

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: like our first half of the season

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_08]: all of our episodes were like half done

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_08]: so they weren't like full episodes but

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_08]: episode 108 was the first episode

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_08]: that was almost

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_08]: entirely done except for one

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_08]: scene the the warp core scene

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_08]: with with Ahura and everybody

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_08]: that's the only scene that's shot on

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_08]: the AR wall so that was

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_08]: the only scene we were missing

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and um so I had gotten like

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_08]: a full episode too and

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_08]: we usually shoot I think like

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_08]: eight or nine days of dailies per

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_08]: episode I think some

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_08]: of them might be a little bit longer or shorter

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_08]: but I think that particular

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_08]: episode might have been a nine day shoot

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_08]: and it was around July 4th

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_08]: so I just remember

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_08]: that I believe April

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_08]: gave me like an extra day or two

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_08]: because of everything that was going on

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_08]: um and like without me even asking too

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_08]: like I didn't even I didn't ask for anything

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_08]: she just changed the schedule

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and told me kind of halfway through

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_08]: like hey this is what we're doing

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like thank you and I was like

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_08]: cutting I just was

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_08]: not getting through a whole day

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_08]: and I usually try to get through the whole day

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_08]: you know when they shoot it because if there's

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_08]: an issue you want to be able to be like hey guys

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_08]: the Klingons have hair

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_08]: like and

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I just remember like I worked

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_08]: probably by the time that I was like

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I was working like I would work

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_08]: all through the night and then I worked the whole

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_08]: long weekend like to make up for

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_08]: it like which again

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_08]: like they don't need to nobody

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_08]: can get in trouble for that now because you know

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think so it already came out and it was great

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah exactly

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_08]: but I remember I had July 4th

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_08]: weekend so I had like a day or two

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_08]: extra built into

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_08]: like the weekend and then I had

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_08]: like a couple of days that week

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_08]: sometime that week is when my like cut

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_08]: was due so I had I made

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_08]: up the days that I basically missed

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_08]: if that makes sense

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah I love that episode

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_11]: here's our final caller and

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_11]: one of our biggest supporters

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_11]: and best questioner

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_11]: Abby

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey Open Pike and Dana this is

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Abby Summer from the First Flight podcast

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Hope all of you and yours are well

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and just wondering as an editor

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: can you talk a little bit about

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_05]: the differences in tone in episodes

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_05]: you've had a lot of work on episodes

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: that go from incredibly

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_05]: serious to very emotional

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_05]: to comedic at times

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_05]: can you talk about how

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_05]: you work with tone with both the actors

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the directors all the creatives

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_05]: and make sure that you hit it just right

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_05]: thanks to all of you for the great work

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and talk soon

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah I just want to add to that when I first

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_10]: looked at your credits

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_10]: I was blown away by the range

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_10]: of tone from

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_10]: courtroom drama to farce to war

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_10]: drama like I was like oh

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_10]: she is going to be fascinating to talk to

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_10]: you because she covered the gambit

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_08]: oh thanks

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_10]: edit that John

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_08]: well thank you

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I think Andrew and Wes are doing the same thing

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_08]: to be honest because the nature of the show

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_08]: is every episodes a little bit different

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_08]: you know

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Wes cut a zombie episode

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_08]: but he also cut a musical

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_08]: that's true

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_08]: like

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_08]: so I think we all kind of do that

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and like one of the great things

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_08]: about this show is the fact that

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_08]: we get to work on

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_08]: totally different episodes throughout the season

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I love working on a show

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_08]: that you're invested in it

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and you know it's

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_08]: you know what the tone is

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_08]: you know how it's supposed to go

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_08]: you know what the formula or blah blah blah blah

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_08]: you find your own creative ways to make it interesting

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but something I love about strange in worlds

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_08]: is just the fact

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_08]: that every episode is different

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_08]: so you get this chance

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_08]: to be like hey here's a million

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_08]: different options to show any future

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_08]: employer I can do it

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and I think

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_08]: you know as far as like

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_08]: working with the different tones

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it helps when I'm able to be part of

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_08]: like the tone meetings and hear exactly

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_08]: what everybody is thinking

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and going for and especially

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_08]: you know who Henry and Akiva think

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_08]: is the most important person in a scene

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_08]: or why they're doing something

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_08]: in a scene I mean even my

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_08]: especially my first season too I watched shows that

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry and Akiva have worked on

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_08]: previously to

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_08]: understand like hey what is

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_08]: their ammo how did they

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_08]: like stuff done

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_08]: but then at the same time

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I still just try to

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I try to pay attention to things

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and again I try to cut intentionally

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_08]: this is also where that lesson that

[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Laurie had taught me of like you still need to live life

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_08]: outside of work

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_08]: is important because understanding

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_08]: interactions with other people like

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_08]: even you know

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_08]: stuff I say to my boyfriend that he doesn't understand

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_08]: or something he says to me that like

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_08]: makes me mad or makes him laugh

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_08]: or whatever you know thinking back

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_08]: like oh why did he think I was being silly

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_08]: when I was being serious oh maybe

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_08]: because my voice was way up here and I was kind of

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: talking like this and

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and I wasn't really looking

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_08]: at him or like why did I get in the way with him

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_08]: when whatever or

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_08]: you know stuff like that not that I get in the way with him

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_08]: he's wonderful I love him. Well speaking of amazing

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_10]: edits and contributions

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_10]: can you point to like one

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_10]: contribution you made to the show that you're most proud

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_10]: of that you could point to and say like that was Dana

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_10]: if Dana had not been working on it

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_10]: that would have not made it to the final cut

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I know that in charades

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_08]: when we were on the mix stage I thought

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_08]: very specifically about

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_08]: the music and

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_08]: there's a point when you know

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_08]: you see you see Spock

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_08]: progressively getting more and more

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_08]: annoyed with Kirk

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and then finally he's like

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna attack him

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_08]: at one point the music like

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_08]: dips out and

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_08]: like

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_08]: it's for comedic effect

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and originally like we just kind of had

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_08]: our composer is amazing I love

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Nami she's so talented

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and our music editor

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_08]: she's phenomenal too

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_08]: like I love her team

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_08]: we have a great team

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_08]: but they like

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I was very persistent about like no

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I want the music to like dip out right here

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_08]: it has to stop

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_08]: because like that's what makes it funny

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and then it needs to pick back up and

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I was very precise about

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_08]: like please no make it stop like completely stop

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_08]: because at first it was like oh just take some stuff out

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_08]: we'll take some stuff out I was like no

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I sit out, TAM Trom

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: you stamped

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: an awkward silence

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: into

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: comedic place like that is so cool

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_08]: my favorite for Sona is like

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_08]: awkward silences

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like come on guys give me this one

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: trust me I know that this goes here

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_08]: and I do feel like Mabanga's

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_08]: seen with his daughter

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_08]: is

[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_08]: it's almost entirely untouched

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_08]: from my editors

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and I think that's because

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I was in such an emotional

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_08]: place doing it so yeah

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_08]: so I think those are kind of like my two things

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_08]: where I'm like oh yeah and I'm sure if I watched it

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I'd be like oh that was me

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_08]: that was my thing because there's always

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_08]: there's always something for episode where I'm like

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_08]: oh this is my moment this is my thing

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_08]: that I'm gonna like

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_08]: manipulate and keep

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_08]: in any way I can

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_10]: how was the

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_10]: non-linear narrative of Under the Cloak

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_10]: of War was that challenging to edit or was it

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_10]: just all there in the script?

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like most of it I think is in the script

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Dady did a great job when we got

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_08]: it ended up being like a really big episode

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I think my editor's cut was like

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_08]: 74 minutes long and

[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_08]: that was me like cutting some stuff out

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like oh no this is too long

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's a lot of really great stuff

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_08]: and we did cut out a lot

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_08]: of really great stuff too but

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_08]: a big

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_08]: element to that is like

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Mabanga's

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_08]: shower scene where he's

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_08]: in the Sonic shower

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_08]: or whatever it's called

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_08]: you got it

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah so Mabanga's

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_08]: in the Sonic shower and you're seeing

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_08]: the clips and the flashes

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_08]: of when his friend dies

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_08]: and everything and that was originally

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_08]: like a whole scene by itself

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_08]: like all the stuff you're seeing in there

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_08]: that was all originally

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_08]: in a different place but we kinda needed

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_08]: we needed to shorten the script and also

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_08]: something about it just wasn't

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_08]: coming through emotionally

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and we tried it that way

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_08]: we tried it with like this crazy

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_08]: intercut stuff and

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_08]: this is another element where it was like

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_08]: oh I kinda like did something

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_08]: crazy and

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I was really worried about this episode because

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_08]: we did kinda like that big massive change

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like oh I don't know if people are gonna like it

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_08]: is it gonna be and then the ending

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_08]: oh wait the ending that's

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_08]: something that is kinda my stamp now

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_08]: it's totally credited to VFX because they are

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_08]: gosh darn amazing

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_08]: like let's just like our VFX team is amazing

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_08]: but we

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_08]: we they shot

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_08]: three endings but it's always meant to be like ambiguous

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and that was always kinda the one we were going with

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_08]: so

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_08]: for like our ambiguous ending

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_08]: we like

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_08]: we were having trouble making it seem

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_08]: ambiguous when you were too close to

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_08]: the actors

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_08]: now

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_08]: did I have this idea or did like

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Akiva and Henry have this idea and like

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and then I like I think we all had

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and Davy as well like cause Davy came in

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and was like part of that too like the

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_08]: you know our writers are part of our

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_08]: post-process too cause they're amazing

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and we love them

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a scene where like we all kinda like came

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_08]: together and like figured out this

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_08]: thing and

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I believe that you know Davy rewrote

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_08]: some of the lines that you're hearing

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_08]: behind that glass and everything

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and that really

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_08]: that really like elevated it

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and sold it

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and made it work and that was like kind of a cool

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_11]: thing so this is a little

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_11]: veering away from Star Trek but we are

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_11]: we have focused a lot

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_11]: on the strikes and all the union action

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_11]: so Ace is a

[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_11]: union right or it's a

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Ace is like

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like a society so it's the American

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_08]: cinema editors like

[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_08]: society of like it's basically like

[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_08]: great editors

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_08]: MPEG motion picture editors guild

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_08]: is our actual guild

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and then we're one of the

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_08]: we're yeah

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_08]: especially if you remember like MPEG stream

[01:19:50] [SPEAKER_08]: it could be like

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_08]: why

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and then we're one of 13 guilds

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_08]: that make up IOTC which is our union

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_11]: so it's

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of confusing

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_11]: okay so you're

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_11]: coming up on next year right

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_11]: there's gonna be a big that is

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_11]: when IOTC's contract comes up

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_08]: yes

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_08]: take the big drink

[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_11]: with the strikes that went on

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_11]: like

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_11]: how did that affect

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_11]: members of IOTC and stuff like that because

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_11]: you mentioned earlier you have to keep membership

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_11]: you have to keep so much

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_11]: work going on like does that still apply

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_11]: exactly the same way even if other unions

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_11]: that affect that are on strike

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_08]: yes the writers

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and the actors strikes very directly

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_08]: affected IOTC because they

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_08]: they brought everything to a halt which was their intention

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_08]: and they all worked

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_08]: extremely hard and they persevered

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and I personally

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_08]: am proud of all of them I went to a bunch

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_08]: of pickets which was also kind of nice

[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_08]: in a sense of like we had some like

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Star Trek specific pickets

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and I got to see the writers in person

[01:20:57] [SPEAKER_08]: be like you guys are great

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_08]: but I also I don't live terribly far away

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_08]: from Sony so I would try to go there

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_08]: a little more often just

[01:21:06] [SPEAKER_08]: to show support because I was also out of work

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_08]: for most of this year

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and yeah the strikes

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_08]: they affected IOTC very directly

[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_08]: they shut everything down

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and a lot of people were out of work

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_08]: also a lot of people

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_08]: had trouble finding work earlier this year

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I was lucky enough

[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_08]: to start a show right as I

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_08]: finished Strange New Worlds

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_08]: and it took me until the writer

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_08]: strike started and then when the writer strike started

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_08]: we were kind of at the end of the season so it

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_08]: made sense to wrap me

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_08]: but then I couldn't

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I was supposed to go from that show back to season 3

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_08]: like I wasn't going to have a break this year

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I would have had like a week or two break

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_08]: which is fine and I don't want to break

[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I love working and I'm

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_08]: you know young and eager enough to be like

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_08]: let's keep going

[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not that young anymore but like

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I would have gone back

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_08]: to Strange New Worlds but like

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_08]: spoiler alert we didn't go back

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: then even though like the writer's room was open

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: we were we would have been ready

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but once it shut down

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_08]: there's nothing to cut

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: so there's nothing to go back to

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_08]: as far as like IOTC membership

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_08]: just like when the pandemic happened

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_08]: the union knows

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_08]: a little bit what you know they know what they're doing

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_08]: they've been around for a minute you know

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_08]: so I know

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I was lucky enough that because

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I was working till May

[01:22:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I had gathered

[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_08]: enough hours and then you know enough

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_08]: qualifying hours during qualifying grade

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_08]: as well as hours into

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_08]: a bank of a bank

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_08]: for my qualifications

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: for healthcare that

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I wasn't going to start getting worried

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_08]: until like

[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_08]: you know January like around then

[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_08]: that's when I would have started to get a little more anxious

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_08]: you know if we hadn't

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_08]: if everybody hadn't come to deals

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_08]: so but I do know people

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_08]: who lost I know a lot of people

[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_08]: who lost their healthcare because

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_08]: they finished jobs

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_08]: in the fall of last year

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and then couldn't get a job

[01:23:03] [SPEAKER_08]: even as early as January

[01:23:05] [SPEAKER_08]: because things were slowing down

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and at first

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_08]: like I didn't see it because I wasn't looking

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: for work but I have

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_08]: friends and colleagues who were looking

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_08]: for work so I do know things were really starting to slow down

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and so some people did lose their healthcare

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_08]: they also gave like waivers

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I believe to some people

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_08]: in different

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_08]: regards

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_08]: or in different situations

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_08]: so they might have given like

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_08]: extensions and I do remember

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_08]: when I very very like

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_08]: when I first moved up I think

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_08]: to editor I worked non-union

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_08]: as an editor on some indie films

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and so I was I almost lost

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_08]: my healthcare

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I should have lost my healthcare but then I was like

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_08]: given a waiver because I

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_08]: assumed because I had like it was only

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_08]: like a 30 day waiver like hey go start getting

[01:23:52] [SPEAKER_08]: some hours or like you're going to lose your healthcare

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_08]: but they do have practices

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_08]: in place to try to help membership

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and to be supportive of membership

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_08]: because that is the point of

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_08]: having them

[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah I mean it was a struggle

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_08]: it was difficult but I think

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_08]: everybody I know and I've talked to

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_08]: you know from my auntie you know

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_08]: is in support of the writers

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and actors and their struggles

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_08]: because they're not unlike

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_08]: our struggles

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and they're not unlike

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_08]: you know we

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_08]: came as close as we've ever come

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_08]: to striking in

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_08]: 2021 with an IAZ strike

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_08]: authorization vote

[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and we got some gains in that

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_08]: contract negotiation but

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_08]: you know it's funny because

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_08]: editors killed like we haven't actually

[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_08]: approved a contract

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_08]: in like 8 years

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_08]: because we didn't

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_08]: because we like the way it works

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_08]: when when I auntie ratifies it

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_08]: is it goes to each guild

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_08]: to approve of the deal

[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and that's when we kind of become

[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_08]: like an electoral college

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and in 2021 and 2018

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_08]: editors guild

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_08]: both times voted no we don't agree

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_08]: with this contract we want a better one

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_08]: but we were out voted

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_08]: by our other guild

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: so

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_08]: which like

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_08]: you know it happens

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_08]: so technically

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_08]: editors guild hasn't

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_08]: agreed with the deal in quite some time

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_08]: but here's to hoping next year

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_08]: will be a good deal because

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_08]: like you want to talk about shutting down

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_08]: the industry like

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_08]: we shut down

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_08]: all three phases we shut down

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_08]: pre-production production and post

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_08]: versus like

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_08]: not that you can do

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_08]: things without writers

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and actors because you can't they're wonderful

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_08]: there's they're a vital

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_08]: important part of this

[01:25:45] [SPEAKER_08]: of all the process but like

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_08]: technically editors can be editing

[01:25:49] [SPEAKER_08]: footage if it exists and

[01:25:51] [SPEAKER_08]: the network

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and studio can be giving notes

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_08]: without you know writers

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_08]: present and I know some people that happened to

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_08]: this year where they like they were on

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_08]: shows and the show just kept going

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_08]: on because they were in production was already

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_08]: done so like

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_08]: they just had to they got through editorial

[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and then like they wrapped and then

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_08]: they just couldn't do

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_08]: until the actors finish

[01:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: well and I mean like you said

[01:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: this the strikes are supposed to be

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: disruptive that is the whole point

[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that is the point of them and that's

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: why they work and like

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_08]: with IOTC we have

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_08]: we have like I believe

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_08]: we have script coordinators in our

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_08]: is is within IOTC so

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_08]: like that shuts down pre-production

[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_08]: as well as as well as all of your

[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_08]: you know set deck and

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_08]: and you know production design

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_08]: people who make

[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_08]: sets before you start production but then

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like you have no crew to shoot

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and you can't do anything with footage that's

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_08]: been shot if IOTC shuts down

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_08]: so it's like right let's just

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_08]: hopefully get a good deal

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_02]: solidarity we

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: we like to be a pro union

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_02]: podcast bill woke off has been here

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: three times I love bill

[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: one of those times he could not

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about Star Trek at all but we still had a

[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: bunch of fun with him so yeah

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: we are definitely a union

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: positive show so it sounds like you're coming

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_10]: back for season three do you know which episodes you're editing

[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_10]: yet or it'll still be

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_08]: 258 I believe

[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_08]: oh okay that's like that's my

[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_08]: that's my rotation

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_10]: okay have you gotten scripts

[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_10]: all yet or is it just 258 as far

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_10]: as you know

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_08]: not yet I believe they

[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_08]: probably they have scripts ready

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_08]: because we were

[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_08]: originally gonna start shooting

[01:27:39] [SPEAKER_08]: mid-May originally and then

[01:27:41] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe or June

[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_08]: so it's like

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm pretty sure stuff's prepared

[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and I only know tentative things and I

[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_08]: so like I know it's coming back

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_08]: for the record it's coming back

[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_08]: like production at least

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_08]: starting soonish I just don't know what

[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm allowed to say or not say I don't know

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_11]: don't get yourself in trouble yeah

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah that's never yeah

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_10]: all right uh well I'm gonna

[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah a couple actor questions these guys don't think

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_10]: you'll answer so we'll see

[01:28:09] [SPEAKER_10]: feel free not to if you if you can't but

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_10]: I've always heard that like editors

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_10]: like two types of actors and they're kind of

[01:28:15] [SPEAKER_10]: the two opposite types of actors they like actors who

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_10]: give an incredibly consistent performance

[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_10]: every take it's the same and it's

[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_10]: quality and they never have to worry about that actor

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_10]: or they like the actors they give

[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_10]: a completely different performance every take

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_10]: and they can work with it and kind of create their own

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_10]: scene out of all the different options they give them

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_10]: who on the cast is the most consistent

[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_10]: and who on the cast gives you the most

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_10]: options

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: well that's a great question

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_08]: because they're all yeah it has a great one

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_08]: they're all pretty

[01:28:44] [SPEAKER_08]: consistent but like they all

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_08]: also have so much range

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_08]: so I would say it's

[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_08]: actually a little more like episode

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_08]: dependent or scene to scene

[01:28:52] [SPEAKER_08]: dependent because

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_08]: like

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_08]: like Christine will

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_08]: like she'll surprise me sometimes

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_08]: like she like I'm like expecting her

[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_08]: to be super serious and then she says something

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's like just slightly not

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_08]: serious and it's hilarious and you're like

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_08]: oh my god how did you do that

[01:29:10] [SPEAKER_08]: um and

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_08]: like I would say Ethan is

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_08]: very consistent

[01:29:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm so good too

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah and

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_08]: it's probably like the most

[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_08]: it's usually our guest stars

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I think who are a little more

[01:29:25] [SPEAKER_08]: give you a little more like

[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_08]: different performances you don't really know

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_08]: what you're gonna get because like most of

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_08]: our main cast like they usually do give you

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_08]: pretty consistent stuff um but like

[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's different at the same time

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_08]: if that makes sense because they like know

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_08]: who their characters are and I think they

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_08]: know what they're trying to do

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_08]: um

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and this would be so

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_08]: good if I was like editing right

[01:29:50] [SPEAKER_08]: now this would be such a great question

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_10]: I'll have to get you back in the middle of an episode then

[01:29:54] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah because I'm like I'm trying to think

[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_08]: back to like different episodes

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_08]: where like oh you know

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like I remember in the Legion Kingdom Babs

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_08]: was pretty darn consistent

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_08]: but like like Christine's was like

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_08]: totally different almost in different

[01:30:07] [SPEAKER_08]: things like but she was still

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_08]: like but it was still she wasn't

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_08]: so different that you couldn't cut the different things

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_08]: together so that's I feel like

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_10]: Anson probably gives different stuff

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_10]: because he feels very much like

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_10]: he comes across this pike in every

[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_10]: scene every episode

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_10]: except maybe at least in Kingdom of course

[01:30:25] [SPEAKER_10]: but the things he does is so

[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_10]: surprising it's stuff you would never expect

[01:30:29] [SPEAKER_10]: you would never guess that was going to be the look

[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_10]: he gives in the next shot but it feels like

[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I agree with that I think

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_08]: like he always like tries something a little

[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_08]: different to be like uh-huh

[01:30:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's really good too

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_08]: about like his reactions

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like he's still he's always acting even

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_08]: when somebody else is speaking

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_08]: which they're also good

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_08]: at that too

[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_08]: like Rebecca's great at that too

[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and so is

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_08]: so is Chapel

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_08]: who? Jess

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Jess, yes

[01:31:01] [SPEAKER_10]: I love that you know my other character names

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_10]: do you have any favorite kind of like background

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_10]: actors especially like on the bridge scenes

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_10]: where they are just their background acting

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_10]: the whole time and you are probably the one

[01:31:11] [SPEAKER_10]: you're probably their biggest audience I'm

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_10]: guessing that like watch us what they're

[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_10]: doing scene to scene just trying to like

[01:31:17] [SPEAKER_10]: keep the realism of the moment

[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_08]: um it's usually

[01:31:21] [SPEAKER_08]: the people who are on the bridge

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_08]: because like they don't always know

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_08]: what they're doing so it's like

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_08]: they're like

[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_08]: but they're not always like

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_08]: that it's like that's just how it

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_08]: looks to me sometimes

[01:31:34] [SPEAKER_08]: um like

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_08]: cause

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_08]: especially like when like when our

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Tata's and Mitchell are doing stuff like

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and saying things and they have like

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_08]: they're so I love the two of them so much but

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_08]: when they're doing and saying stuff like I feel like

[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_08]: that's like when background actors are really

[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_08]: trying to manipulate

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and do things

[01:31:55] [SPEAKER_08]: but uh yeah

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_08]: but sometimes sometimes I don't love that cause

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_08]: like I do not want somebody

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_08]: to be distracting I need you to not

[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_08]: be like all over the place

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah

[01:32:08] [SPEAKER_10]: we've had great conversations with like

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_10]: with Rong Fu and Jennifer Huay

[01:32:12] [SPEAKER_10]: and you know

[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_10]: the roles where they're

[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_10]: they've got ideas about what their character is thinking

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_10]: during all those bridge scenes

[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah Mitchell always has like

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_08]: great react like she's always

[01:32:24] [SPEAKER_08]: doing something where I'm like yes

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_08]: thank you I love that

[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: along the lines of background

[01:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: we do have a

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: right in from a friend of ours who was

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: in under the cloak of war he's

[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a soldier on the ground

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: David is has sent us some

[01:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: really good questions

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and his question this week

[01:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: is what was it like editing

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: on these episodes which

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: will end up going down as

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: some of Star Trek's greatest episodes ever

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and I have to echo

[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that like the legacy

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: of these episodes like this

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_02]: is very easily

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna be a lot of people's first Star Trek

[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's gonna be hard for a

[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Star Trek fans to be like

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah this is kind of like

[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: it tops out here a couple times

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: sorry but the rest of what you'll watch is gonna be

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe not quite this great like

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the spirit is always there but like

[01:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: some of these episodes are

[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: mind-blowingly good

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like specifically Elysian Kingdom so

[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_02]: on David's behalf

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_02]: what was it like to edit knowing

[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: that these are gonna have a long legacy

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I did go into it thinking like

[01:33:34] [SPEAKER_08]: this is the first time

[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_08]: we've had the best

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_08]: potential to make this

[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_08]: show what I think the original

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_08]: creators vision was

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_08]: like we have the technology

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_08]: the capability the time

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_08]: the resources to do it

[01:33:51] [SPEAKER_08]: in a way that like you know

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_08]: the original series like

[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_08]: they couldn't do what we

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_08]: can do today so it's like if they could do

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_08]: what we could do today I think

[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot of their episodes would

[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_08]: still

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_08]: crazily outshine ours just because

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_08]: they were the originals in their first thought

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_08]: and all that jazz and I

[01:34:10] [SPEAKER_08]: think a big capability of what makes

[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_08]: some of our

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_08]: our episodes and like

[01:34:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and just like the newer Star Trek

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_08]: too like you know Discovery and Picard

[01:34:21] [SPEAKER_08]: as well

[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_08]: it's the fact that we

[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_08]: can make it look real we can

[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_08]: do it it's like believable and

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_08]: it's cool and it's only gonna like visual

[01:34:30] [SPEAKER_08]: effects wise and our

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_08]: visual effects team is amazing

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_08]: they're great

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_08]: are the guys we work with

[01:34:38] [SPEAKER_08]: in editorial and the guys who work

[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_08]: the men and women because it's not just guys

[01:34:43] [SPEAKER_08]: using it as a unisex

[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_08]: term because like

[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_08]: we have such a great

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_08]: team both that work with us

[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_08]: in editorial and work with

[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_08]: you know work after I've wrapped

[01:34:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and they work for another few months

[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_08]: just to make it as

[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_08]: epic as it is

[01:35:00] [SPEAKER_08]: it's really cool

[01:35:02] [SPEAKER_08]: hearing that people love

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_08]: it so much because the audience

[01:35:06] [SPEAKER_08]: is response to everything

[01:35:08] [SPEAKER_08]: is always very humbling and

[01:35:10] [SPEAKER_08]: exciting and makes me happy because I really

[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_08]: was under the cloak of war was an episode I was

[01:35:14] [SPEAKER_08]: really like kind of worried about I didn't

[01:35:16] [SPEAKER_08]: know I really didn't know how

[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_08]: people were gonna respond to the

[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_08]: ending and how they were gonna feel

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_08]: about like an ambiguous ending or an ending

[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_08]: that even if it's ambiguous like

[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_08]: you might come to your own conclusions

[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_08]: and like

[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I was like well what does it say

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_08]: about nowadays

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_08]: and like you know redemption

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and mental health and PTSD and all this stuff

[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_08]: because I

[01:35:40] [SPEAKER_08]: have never been a veteran

[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_08]: or served my country I have family members

[01:35:44] [SPEAKER_08]: who are and friends

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_08]: like I don't know

[01:35:48] [SPEAKER_08]: if I'm the most qualified person

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_08]: to tell the story but like I'm very

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_08]: grateful to be part of the team and along

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_11]: for the ride. I like what you said

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_11]: about the you know having the

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_11]: capabilities now like back in the original

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_11]: series days they had to dress a dog up

[01:36:02] [SPEAKER_11]: in a silly costume you guys haven't had to do

[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_11]: that so. Yeah

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: nope. I'm trying to

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_11]: that's a joke isn't it? Oh yeah

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Runa. Runa.

[01:36:12] [SPEAKER_10]: Aww. You gotta edit Runa.

[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that dog

[01:36:16] [SPEAKER_08]: she is adorable she has an Instagram

[01:36:18] [SPEAKER_08]: she is a great little actress

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_08]: just like her mom

[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_08]: um I love her eyes. If you listen to the Christina

[01:36:24] [SPEAKER_10]: Chong interview you'll hear

[01:36:25] [SPEAKER_10]: Runa almost got a date on the show.

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. Yep. That was

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_10]: classic. Oh my

[01:36:31] [SPEAKER_08]: God. I remember cutting Runa

[01:36:33] [SPEAKER_08]: into like her scenes too

[01:36:35] [SPEAKER_08]: where she is making looks I was like

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_11]: yes. She is very good at giving those

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_10]: looks yeah. So cute

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_08]: they're so good.

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_10]: Well I loved everything you just said there that was a

[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_10]: great answer to end on so I've got one

[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_10]: final question I know

[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_10]: this is kind of a joke to ask people

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_10]: in LA but seeing that

[01:36:52] [SPEAKER_10]: I saw that you

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_10]: also studied screenwriting in film school

[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_10]: how's the screenplay coming?

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I like writing on

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_08]: the side I actually

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_08]: probably the reason I double majored

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_08]: and my second major was

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_08]: in screenwriting was because

[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_08]: my freshman year of college

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_08]: uh like I also

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_08]: transferred to school but like my freshman year of college

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I had a screenwriting professor

[01:37:18] [SPEAKER_08]: who um

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_08]: she basically said like you know editing

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_08]: is screenwriting like you're gonna need

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_08]: to know how to tell the story blah blah blah blah

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_08]: she was going through like who wants

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_08]: to be this who wants to be that and then when she got to editor

[01:37:31] [SPEAKER_08]: she was like well you need

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_08]: to be screenwriters more than anybody

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_08]: blah blah blah so then like when I transferred schools

[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like I want to be in the

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_08]: screenwriting classes too

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_08]: and um

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I originally did it just

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_08]: so I could be a better editor

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_08]: um and I do like to write on the

[01:37:48] [SPEAKER_08]: side but like I also work with all these

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_08]: amazingly talented people

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and I get very intimidated very

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_08]: quickly and I'm like well

[01:37:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I will just keep working on that I guess

[01:38:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll just keep that to myself

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_08]: why not

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_10]: they say a movie

[01:38:04] [SPEAKER_10]: and a TV show is written three times

[01:38:06] [SPEAKER_10]: on the page on the set

[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_10]: and in editing so you put the period on the

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_10]: final draft yeah

[01:38:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and I love grammar so that works

[01:38:16] [SPEAKER_11]: open pike night

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_11]: is an open mic night

[01:38:19] [SPEAKER_11]: themed podcast

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_11]: so Dana

[01:38:22] [SPEAKER_11]: do you have a joke to tell us tonight

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_08]: okay I do

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_08]: it's one of my jokes that my dad

[01:38:28] [SPEAKER_08]: told me

[01:38:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I probably won't deliver it as well as my dad does

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_03]: but okay

[01:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: so

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_08]: a guy's in a car driving down the street

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_08]: when all of a sudden in front of him

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_08]: darts this three legged chicken

[01:38:42] [SPEAKER_08]: he does a double take he sees it

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_08]: gasps and as it runs around

[01:38:47] [SPEAKER_08]: in circles in front of him and then

[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_08]: flees down the road as he tries to go

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_08]: catch it so he chases in and chases it

[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_08]: all the way back to a farm

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_08]: and can't he can't he doesn't see it

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_08]: but he sees the farm and he goes to the farm

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and he goes do you see three legged chicken

[01:39:01] [SPEAKER_08]: running around here and he goes oh yeah yeah

[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I breed them and he goes well

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_08]: what what why would you

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_08]: breed a three legged chicken and he goes well

[01:39:09] [SPEAKER_08]: come dinner time you know

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_08]: my wife my kid and I we all want

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_08]: uh a leg

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_08]: so I figured the best way to do

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_08]: is have a three legged chicken so started

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_08]: breeding them and the guy goes oh

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_08]: oh well how's it taste

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_08]: is it good is this was it worth it

[01:39:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and he goes I don't know

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_08]: haven't been able to catch it yet

[01:39:31] hahahahahaha

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_08]: oh

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know this is terrible I'm so sorry

[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_10]: oh no that is

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_08]: there's a reason I'm behind the camera

[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_08]: hahahahahaha

[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I did just stand up once to impress a boy

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_08]: but all I got was a handshake

[01:39:44] [SPEAKER_08]: oh there's a story there

[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_10]: oh buried the lead

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_10]: that's brutal

[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a handshake

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_08]: we did end up dating after that for a little while

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_08]: but like that night I just got a handshake

[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like

[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_08]: what gosh darn it

[01:40:00] [SPEAKER_10]: how many minutes did you do

[01:40:01] [SPEAKER_08]: um I don't

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't exactly remember how many

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_08]: minutes I did because

[01:40:07] [SPEAKER_08]: the reason I like did stand up

[01:40:09] [SPEAKER_08]: was I had transferred schools and I was in this class

[01:40:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and there was two guys

[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like oh they're both cute oh they're put

[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and after class like they would always like leave together

[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_08]: because they were clearly friends and one day I was like

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_08]: no I'm gonna go talk to them I'm not gonna be shy

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna say hi I'm at least gonna introduce myself

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_08]: and so like I literally like

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_08]: stopped these guys down like

[01:40:27] [SPEAKER_08]: out of the building down the street into another

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_08]: building and then like down a hallway

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_08]: into a room when like I realized

[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_08]: and they were like oh

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_08]: my friend John was like oh Dan

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_08]: are you here for stand up club?

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like yup

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_04]: you yes ended real life

[01:40:45] [SPEAKER_04]: that's crazy

[01:40:47] [SPEAKER_08]: yes and I'll stay

[01:40:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and then like right before I went on

[01:40:52] [SPEAKER_08]: um like

[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_08]: by the time I went on I had determined

[01:40:55] [SPEAKER_08]: which one I was going after and the other one

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_08]: was like oh you know you need to make a joke about

[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_08]: school newspaper and I was like what

[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_08]: why do you need this well because we

[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_08]: hate the school newspaper they always mess stuff up

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_08]: and like he's like so stand up club in the newspaper

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_08]: we have a rivalry have to tell a joke

[01:41:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was like oh okay and I thought of something

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_08]: very quickly

[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and when I told that joke

[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_08]: it like cause I told that joke

[01:41:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I did the whole thing like oh it's pretty nervous

[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and I was telling jokes and I

[01:41:21] [SPEAKER_08]: was really relying on like

[01:41:23] [SPEAKER_08]: the performance of like okay I'm trying

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and I'm not funny and it's gonna be some awkward

[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_08]: silences and hopefully you'll laugh

[01:41:29] [SPEAKER_08]: because I'm so tense that you will

[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_08]: want to relieve that like tension

[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_08]: right there and so then I like

[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_08]: got to the point where I told the joke

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and like interrupted or at least

[01:41:39] [SPEAKER_08]: from my perception it erupted

[01:41:41] [SPEAKER_08]: like all these guys like that later

[01:41:43] [SPEAKER_08]: became my friends cause like I had just

[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_08]: transferred I didn't really have that many friends yet

[01:41:46] [SPEAKER_08]: um they all like jumped

[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_08]: up and were laughing and clapping and I was like

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_08]: oh okay I'm gonna get off the stage now

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_08]: like I had a whole second age and I was like

[01:41:55] [SPEAKER_08]: nope nothing is gonna be as good as that

[01:41:57] [SPEAKER_10]: you gotta know when to fold them

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_10]: everything about that story

[01:42:01] [SPEAKER_10]: needs to be in a screenplay

[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_10]: write this down and make this a thing

[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_08]: noted

[01:42:07] [SPEAKER_02]: like half of the things that happen to you

[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_02]: in real life feel like

[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: sitcom things like

[01:42:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I would watch you know

[01:42:15] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever the show is called like

[01:42:17] [SPEAKER_02]: editing Dana or whatever it is

[01:42:19] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_08]: well when I

[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_08]: when I get up the courage

[01:42:23] [SPEAKER_11]: yeah I expect you to turn your camera

[01:42:25] [SPEAKER_11]: and like we see your kitchen is just like a disaster

[01:42:27] [SPEAKER_11]: or some you know

[01:42:28] [SPEAKER_11]: like the meal going horribly wrong

[01:42:31] [SPEAKER_11]: you know

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_08]: that would be accurate

[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_08]: all of my best friends

[01:42:37] [SPEAKER_08]: are great cooks or bakers

[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_08]: or both and I am not and that's why

[01:42:41] [SPEAKER_08]: they're my best friends

[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and you're getting to the part of the year where you have to text those people

[01:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and be like hey do you want

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: a low pressure gig but still bring food over

[01:42:50] [SPEAKER_08]: oh man like this is

[01:42:51] [SPEAKER_08]: like I host thanks

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_08]: like I'm hosting Thanksgiving

[01:42:55] [SPEAKER_08]: because it's like my favorite holiday but like I'm hosting

[01:42:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Thanksgiving and I'm like oh what can you guys bring

[01:43:00] [SPEAKER_08]: you know I'm gonna make ravioli

[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_08]: so like what are you guys gonna make

[01:43:04] [SPEAKER_08]: my friends there

[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_08]: coming over tomorrow to like do the turkey

[01:43:07] [SPEAKER_08]: so I was like hey

[01:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: that's smart to leave it open and it like that

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_02]: cause somebody's gonna volunteer to do the turkey

[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_02]: that's brilliant yep there you go

[01:43:16] [SPEAKER_11]: any plugs any social medias to shout out

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_11]: anything you want

[01:43:19] [SPEAKER_11]: folks to know about any stand up shows

[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_08]: my friend Lamar Jones dropped like

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_08]: three songs today

[01:43:26] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's really talented and

[01:43:27] [SPEAKER_11]: yay go check out Lamar Jones

[01:43:30] [SPEAKER_11]: and he's on

[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_11]: Spotify or SoundCloud or where's he at

[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_11]: crap great question

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_08]: cause I listened to it already so I'm like

[01:43:38] [SPEAKER_08]: where did I listen to it on

[01:43:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Spotify yes yes

[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I listened to it on Spotify so I was like we're gonna know

[01:43:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Spotify good deal

[01:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and John did explain to you that we're

[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna have you edit this episode right

[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that was

[01:43:51] [SPEAKER_08]: clear and pre-stored

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_08]: okay let's go

[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm down

[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_08]: guys I have wanted to go back to work

[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_08]: for so long so like send it my way here we go

[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[01:44:05] [SPEAKER_02]: believe you

[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: completely actually so

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but we won't make you do that

[01:44:11] [SPEAKER_08]: well thanks much appreciated

[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: thank you so much

[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: this has been

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: just a blast like we every time

[01:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that we get a crew member

[01:44:21] [SPEAKER_02]: or somebody who's not a writer

[01:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: or an actor we're like

[01:44:25] [SPEAKER_02]: are they gonna want to talk to us

[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_02]: like are they gonna or they gonna feel like I want to

[01:44:29] [SPEAKER_02]: talk about work you know so like

[01:44:31] [SPEAKER_08]: you have always talk about work

[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_02]: you have thoroughly dispelled that for us

[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's gonna make upcoming

[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_02]: interviews even easier I just

[01:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it so thank you so much this was

[01:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of fun yeah

[01:44:43] [SPEAKER_08]: oh thank you guys so much I had a lot of fun too

[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I hope it's not too

[01:44:47] [SPEAKER_08]: difficult to edit down the line

[01:44:49] [SPEAKER_02]: no that's why we give ourselves

[01:44:51] [SPEAKER_02]: two weeks lead time whenever possible

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and it was

[01:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: funny actually when you were talking about

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_02]: the collaborative process you're like you know a note will come back

[01:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and then I politely fight

[01:45:01] [SPEAKER_02]: that note and come at it with

[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: my intention we do

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: exactly the same thing that's

[01:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: easily the most contentious part

[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: of our show is the edit

[01:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't

[01:45:13] [SPEAKER_02]: want to speak for Cameron or John but I wouldn't have it

[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_02]: any other way I think that's the best

[01:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: way to get to high quality and consistency

[01:45:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so it's really

[01:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: cool to learn that we basically

[01:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: make this show in exactly the same

[01:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: manner that you make strange new worlds

[01:45:26] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah exactly that's what I'm taking away from it

[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah I mean

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_08]: this was like such a blast too and it's

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_08]: always nice to work with people you like

[01:45:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and who are nice and good to you and stuff

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_08]: like that and that's like

[01:45:39] [SPEAKER_08]: my thing is I another

[01:45:41] [SPEAKER_08]: reason I love working on strange new worlds

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_08]: too it's like we it's

[01:45:46] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like just

[01:45:47] [SPEAKER_08]: it's a lot of nice people a lot of

[01:45:49] [SPEAKER_08]: nice good people I've like I've had

[01:45:51] [SPEAKER_08]: only great directors and

[01:45:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean you know

[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_08]: even Henry or just gosh darn amazing

[01:45:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and our writers are so talented

[01:45:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like everybody's great

[01:46:01] [SPEAKER_08]: on the show and our post staff is

[01:46:03] [SPEAKER_08]: epic too like I love like

[01:46:05] [SPEAKER_08]: great people on the show so

[01:46:07] [SPEAKER_08]: it's so good I love it I wanted to go on forever

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_04]: we do too

[01:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: us too yeah

[01:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Dana I don't mean to spoil

[01:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the next season for you but we're gonna

[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: probably have to have you back after

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you've done some work on the next season

[01:46:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I would love that

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_10]: so take some notes while you're editing

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_10]: that you want to talk about when you come back on

[01:46:27] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah we'll be like

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_08]: oh my god it's all done this

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah

[01:46:32] [SPEAKER_11]: well that was a fantastic episode with

[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Dana Gasperin our hopefully

[01:46:36] [SPEAKER_11]: first of our editor

[01:46:38] [SPEAKER_11]: interviews like we said we'll see if we can get the whole department on

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[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_10]: my shame has been on display for

[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: two years well then I will plug

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[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_11]: super fun to record that's for sure yeah

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[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_11]: where can folks find you when you're not in the open pike

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[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_02]: inevitable which is my old podcast

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_02]: where I would introduce friends

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